All posts made by Quantum_Negatum in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 2050530 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
What's the deal with all the 0.0123 sales today? I've seen that number spammed a lot but never as frequently as today.
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Post 2055094 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.56h):
not that i know anything about TA, just feeling artistic

Looks to me like we are headed sub $20 in the next 24 hours.
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Post 2061672 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
This is like watching BattleBots.
What do you think is the ratio of bot to human trades?
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Post 2064202 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
*patiently waiting for the chaos that will ensue when the bots decide to collectively rise up against the humans and pull all the fake buy floors at the same time.
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Post 2075562 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
The war is over. The bots have won. I am ready to be assimilated.
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Post 2075667 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
back down?
perfect ...
Bots are jumping on the human buys like piranhas.
Whenever a human places an order, the bots work together to manipulate the price but against each other to maximize their own profits. The net result is always bots up, humans down.
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Post 2075809 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
You cannot outsmart the GoxBot collective. Resistance is futile.
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Post 2077601 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Are we pretending more than 10% of the buy "support" under $100 is real? If so, why?
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Post 2077651 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Are we pretending more than 10% of the buy "support" under $100 is real? If so, why?
Because 250k coins were purchased during the testing of $50, and another 100k coins during the recent testing of $80? And this is only the amount purchased in the few hours directly surrounding these lows.
And we are certain that the majority of those coins were not purchased by the bots who removed their walls crashing the market in the first place?
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Post 2077687 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Are we pretending more than 10% of the buy "support" under $100 is real? If so, why?
Because 250k coins were purchased during the testing of $50, and another 100k coins during the recent testing of $80? And this is only the amount purchased in the few hours directly surrounding these lows.
And we are certain that the majority of those coins were not purchased by the bots who removed their walls crashing the market in the first place?
Yes.

Elaborate, please.
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Post 2077737 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
The support is more fragile than it appears because the bots remove the walls when things start to fall. The resistance upwards is greater it than appears because the bots do not place buy orders until they decide to purchase.
This is basic stuff that you learn the first day after assimilation.
Resistance is futile. Give your money to the bots now and walk away, or lose more over the long haul.
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Post 2077803 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Are we pretending more than 10% of the buy "support" under $100 is real? If so, why?
Because 250k coins were purchased during the testing of $50, and another 100k coins during the recent testing of $80? And this is only the amount purchased in the few hours directly surrounding these lows.
And we are certain that the majority of those coins were not purchased by the bots who removed their walls crashing the market in the first place?
Wait, we're certain that there are bots who removed the walls and crashed the market? Lets examine that a little more first.
As a member of the GoxBot collective I do not need to examine this any further. We know.
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Post 2078040 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
I'm still thinking it's going to be a very very heavy sell off. I don't know man, just got this tickling feeling in my tummy.
+1
Those tickles are nanoGoxBots slowly assimilating you. I look forward to our union.
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Post 2081458 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
https://mtgox.com/ is showing different error messages. Under "service unavailable," sometimes it states nginx/1.2.1, other times nginx/1.4.0.
Anyone else notice this? Possible nginx upgrade in process?
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Post 2086963 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Has Gox limited or disabled the bots? If so, it's a bad omen when that results in almost no volume... Another indication of how much control the bots really have.
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Post 2087032 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Has Gox limited or disabled the bots? If so, it's a bad omen when that results in almost no volume... Another indication of how much control the bots really have.
Not to my knowledge. I guess there are simply no buy/sell signals for the bots.
What should a bot do if the market is moving sideways?
Someone posted on facebook about his price checker app getting banned. I presume it relied on the APIs.
Gox has restricted bots in the past by doing something with the APIs or banning accounts/IPs. I can't find their post about it, but I know it's been done. Wouldn't be surprised if the same is going on now.
*edit*
Also, I'm seeing a lot less of the obvious bot orders (0.0001, etc). There are still a few, but it's a tiny fraction of what was going on yesterday.
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Post 2087068 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Once the masses realize how important the bots are in pumping up the price to artificial levels, they will beg Gox to turn the bots back on.
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Post 2087245 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
If this is true im floored by how much bots contribute to volume. I must be a dinosaur here, tradingwith my brain, eyes and mouse
I'm not surprised at all. The extent of bot control over the market is readily apparent by watching the moving walls on the Moody ticker.
Bitcoin's capitulation period will coincide with the realization that it is being pumped just like the alt-coins on BTCe.
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Post 2087277 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Has Gox limited or disabled the bots? If so, it's a bad omen when that results in almost no volume... Another indication of how much control the bots really have.
Not to my knowledge. I guess there are simply no buy/sell signals for the bots.
What should a bot do if the market is moving sideways?
The error I'm getting with my bot is certificate verification failed. God only knows what they're up to.
Edit: Looks like data.mtgox.com is using the certificate from
www.mtgox.com. It's amateur hour (or four), guys.
Gox login page does not have
green bar.
Shows a green bar to me.
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Post 2087285 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Has Gox limited or disabled the bots? If so, it's a bad omen when that results in almost no volume... Another indication of how much control the bots really have.
Not to my knowledge. I guess there are simply no buy/sell signals for the bots.
What should a bot do if the market is moving sideways?
The error I'm getting with my bot is certificate verification failed. God only knows what they're up to.
Edit: Looks like data.mtgox.com is using the certificate from
www.mtgox.com. It's amateur hour (or four), guys.
interesting... I get "http 403: forbidden" on http api calls to data.mtgox.com.
interesting 2.) same client works from another host.
Gox is banning by IP? LOL, that's a terrible solution to the bot problem.
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Post 2087301 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Prediction:
Soon the bot owners will realize they need to spoof an IP to get their bot back online. Total chaos will ensue.
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Post 2088060 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Tbh I think people are overestimating last night's mind DDOS. The API was unresponsive and the website down for like 15 minutes two times with a five minutes gap in between. It was already a period of extremely low volume. When it came back up the most notable thing was that a 200 BTC market buy drove the price up from 109 to 112 since asks were barren after the ~1kish dump that took it below 110.
You can't draw many meaningful conclusions amidst a no volume phase.
volume is not low.
its not high, but its not low either.....
No, it's low.
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Post 2088111 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Stable price with almost no volume is nothing to celebrate.
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Post 2092935 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
I'm amazed the price has been so stable with the DDoS or whatever going on for so long. Volume is really really low.
I'm amazed at the number of bitcoiners who believe a stable price with volume this low is a good thing in an almost purely speculative market.
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Post 2092968 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Unless Mt. Gox restores full pump n' dump privileges to the bots, expect sub $40, possibly even sub $20, within a week.
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Post 2093046 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Unless Mt. Gox restores full pump n' dump privileges to the bots, expect sub $40, possibly even sub $20, within a week.
That seems extreme.
Ok, sub $60, or possibly even sub $50.
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Post 2093488 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
It's not just the low volume that scares me. This coincided with Gox restricting and/or disabling bots. It appears that not only do the bots move walls to control the price, but they are also responsible for most of the volume.
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Post 2093537 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
It's not just the low volume that scares me. This coincided with Gox restricting and/or disabling bots. It appears that not only do the bots move walls to control the price, but they are also responsible for most of the volume.
link?
There are some reports earlier in the thread by users who had bots disabled/restricted. I'll try to find.
Not surprising though. Gox has previously posted on facebook or twitter that they temporarily restricted the bots after a DDOS attack. I believe this was done shortly after the engine upgrade in April. Similar to the present situation, those restrictions also resulted in low volume and stagnant price.
*edit*
some reports around p 337. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2087032#msg2087032
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Post 2095362 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.57h):
Looks like the 0.500 bot is back online....
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Post 2099039 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Looks like the 0.500 bot is back online....
Posted the above at 12:47:07 AM CST. Just before the price started to climb.
As soon as the bots came back online the pumping continued. Big surprise. Some people will never learn.
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Post 2099115 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Looks like the 0.500 bot is back online....
Posted the above at 12:47:07 AM CST. Just before the price started to climb.
As soon as the bots came back online the pumping continued. Big surprise. Some people will never learn.
I see the 0.0123 bot is quite active this morning...
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Post 2099128 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
It's not just the low volume that scares me. This coincided with Gox restricting and/or disabling bots. It appears that not only do the bots move walls to control the price, but they are also responsible for most of the volume.
link?
There are some reports earlier in the thread by users who had bots disabled/restricted. I'll try to find.
Not surprising though. Gox has previously posted on facebook or twitter that they temporarily restricted the bots after a DDOS attack. I believe this was done shortly after the engine upgrade in April. Similar to the present situation, those restrictions also resulted in low volume and stagnant price.
*edit*
some reports around p 337. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2087032#msg2087032
For this who missed it. ^
This will probably be the new trend following DDOS attacks. No more panic sells. Rather, Gox disables bots. Price and volume doesn't move until they are re-enabled. Then the pumping and dumping continues.
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Post 2099205 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
I really hope this upward breakout didn't come as a huge surprise to anybody. I understand that there is still a lot of - justified - reservation about the question if the post-bubble correction is really over, and users like evolve and slipperyslope certainly like to remind us of that reservation on a daily basis (no offense. I appreciate the posts of you guys), but any serious look at the recent order book totals, the money flow of the past 6 days, or the sentiment on this forum ("I'm gonna buy *so hard* once price hits 90") should have convinced you that, at least short term, the only way was up. What will happen in a longer time frame, next weeks/months, is another question.
I concur. The absolute deluge of good news over the past week didn't hurt either.
There is almost no correlation between good/bad news and up/down price. There is however a very strong correlation with volatility and an upward trend when Gox let's the bots do as they please.
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Post 2103637 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
that akward moment when a fart can make btc price move up by a a dollar or 2 ..
sshhtt.. no sound.. doooonnn't movee!
I pooped a little while desperately trying to hold a fart. Do you expect this will effect the price much?
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Post 2114154 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Might be an exciting weekend after all.
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Post 2137987 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Please educate me. In a speculative market, is stability a good thing when the volume is low (most of which is probably attributable to botwars)?
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Post 2140719 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Looks like a clam about to close. What happens when the ask and bid lines are vertical and less than $1 apart? High noon showdown?
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Post 2147179 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Expect other US-based companies to make similar announcements soon.
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Post 2147253 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Expect other US-based companies to make similar announcements soon.
And so it begins...
Panic time.
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Post 2147524 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Gox probably gonna hit the pause-trade cooldown button.
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Post 2157328 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.58h):
Yesterday was just a precursor. The real panic selling has yet to begin.
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Post 2161300 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
My open orders just appeared. I bet we see some movement soon.
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Post 2170871 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Silence from Gox re DHS, eerily low volume and repeated bounces off what is probably an invisible mega wall at $114...
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Post 2172994 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
https://community.bitfinex.com/content.php/27-Gox-recent-newsNote the comment:
[BFX]Raphael - Today, 08:30 PM Reply
The surprises of next week will surely make it up for it.
Dear traders and lenders, stay tuned
Raphael
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Post 2214386 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_10.59h):
Today's volume (or lack thereof) surprising or concerning to any of you?
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Post 2231018 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
rpetilia is a troll. I've seen better.
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Post 2257644 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.
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Post 2258110 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
My suspicion is disprovable. We shall find out within a few days.
Now would be a good time to move coins among exchanges given the recent parity...
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Post 2290813 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
chart overload.
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Post 2290916 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.00h):
Dat volume...
... still looks pathetic compared to almost any day in March or April.
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Post 2299831 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
governments have already come out and said bitcoin was ok
No.
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Post 2308738 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.
Or, insiders getting their money out of liberty reserve and converting into Bitcoin just in time.
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Post 2308754 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.
Is this some kind of advanced reverse psychology that you are speaking?

There was just a conference with lots of VC's there. So, some traders know of impending negative news and so are somehow driving the price up and risking lots of $$$ in the meantime?
You should write children's stories...

Come on, you can come up with something more factual that that. How about the Japanese stock market COLLAPSED by 12% yesterday and that is a sign that Quantitative Easing (aka planned hyperinflation) doesn't work.
Looks like I may have been right though...
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Post 2309420 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.
Is this some kind of advanced reverse psychology that you are speaking?

There was just a conference with lots of VC's there. So, some traders know of impending negative news and so are somehow driving the price up and risking lots of $$$ in the meantime?
You should write children's stories...

Come on, you can come up with something more factual that that. How about the Japanese stock market COLLAPSED by 12% yesterday and that is a sign that Quantitative Easing (aka planned hyperinflation) doesn't work.
Looks like I may have been right though...
Don't confuse being right via guessing, with being right for the correct reasons. eheheh
I think things are a bit more complicated than any of us can understand to be honest.
Sit back and enjoy the ride, however slow or volatile it may be...
What am I confusing? I acknowledged I was guessing by calling it a "bet." But, it was an educated bet that took into consideration recent events.
You are making some of the most speculative guesses in this thread and have a hard time admitting that you might be wrong.
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Post 2311995 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I wish you "bulls" would put your money were your mouths are and start BUYING!! At least we'd have some action. As far as I can tell, that's why you hate FUD...because you're so easily shaken in your faith. Sell everything and buy bitcoin. You shouldn't even have a computer right now. It's depreciating anyway. Aren't you in reality, losing money based on your delusions thinking? Or is it really just all talk?
mmm well there's a reason the price is going up.... economics 099 the demand is stronger than the offer...

but I'm sure you knew that already...

Unwise to assume no manipulation or insider trading, especially in a speculative market like Bitcoin.
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Post 2312204 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
I wish you "bulls" would put your money were your mouths are and start BUYING!! At least we'd have some action. As far as I can tell, that's why you hate FUD...because you're so easily shaken in your faith. Sell everything and buy bitcoin. You shouldn't even have a computer right now. It's depreciating anyway. Aren't you in reality, losing money based on your delusions thinking? Or is it really just all talk?
mmm well there's a reason the price is going up.... economics 099 the demand is stronger than the offer...

but I'm sure you knew that already...

Unwise to assume no manipulation or insider trading, especially in a speculative market like Bitcoin.
don't confuse the term demand with the term manipulation much less inside trading.
demand refers just to the amount of "people" looking to buy bitcoins, the reason behind that demand can be interpreted in many ways and it's beyond my statement. If they are buying to manipulate the price or to generate network traffic or because they want to click their mouse multiple times, that's irrelevant. The bottom line is that there's a demand and that's why the price goes up regardless of the end goal of the individual buying the coins.
Demand = pretend demand (i.e. not demand). Ok, whatever.
But given your definition, which I admit may be the generally accepted one, then your analysis goes without saying and is therefore useless. Thanks.
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Post 2343993 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
There was considerably more volume mid-April. A wall isn't effective when no one is interested in trading.
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Post 2344264 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Volume isn't just lower compared to post-crash, but also before that:
That's probably because of the recent incidents with regulations. Many people are waiting until that is cleared up before they can confidently trade again on Gox. Until then the volume will stay extremely low, with short increases in volume during price changes.
Wishful thinking, bull.
A more likely scenario is that speculators consider the price too high (potential reward greatly outweighed by risk at the moment), stubborn miners in a more competitive environment are holding positions, stubborn sellers are not willing to go lower than their entry point and there is a much reduced flow of money into Gox for numerous reasons, including potential new investors sitting on the sidelines viewing a stagnant price and considering weaker returns. Doubtful that the regulations are primarily responsible for widespread panic or reluctance to buy in. It is true that the regulations make it more difficult to get money into Gox, but generally only for the criminal-minded. If you have nothing to hide, it is still easy to transfer money, for example via wire.
I would entertain the possibility that recent regulation enforcement has scared away a small minority of criminals who were using bitcoin for money laundering. If this minority was responsible for most of the previous volume and are now absent, then I'd bet on a long, drawn-out downturn.
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Post 2344492 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Look in the mirror, who is wishful thinking now? I'm not really bullish nor bearish on the short term, it depends on how this whole regulation issue gets resolved. If it gets resolved in a good way that fully legitimizes the bitcoin exchange then yes I'm very bullish. I do feel that we're going to move up a little after the current period of consolidation, but it will be a relatively small and hesitant move as long as there's no resolution to these issues, and it could just as easily reverse again the week after. And it's not just that you have to get verified now to trade or that there are no fast, cheap and easy ways to move money in and out like with Dwolla. That's annoying ofcourse, but the main thing is that Gox apparently does not have its act together and trust in the exchange is dwindling. If you can't see that this all would cause a significant loss in volume then you're just blind.
I do understand how it could cause a drop in volume, but not to current levels. There are other factors in play that have a greater impact on the price and volume, imo.
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Post 2353489 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.01h):
Earlier this morning, about 4 million was dumped within 30 minutes, right? According to Bitcoinity, it would only take a 12.5 million dump on gox to slide all the way down to $20. Am I reading this chart correct?
I realize 12.5 mil is not likely to be dumped all at once. But still... $20 doesn't seem that far away.
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Post 2432666 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.03h):
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Post 2524689 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
According to Moody, there are bids totaling more than $50 million in the $0 - $2.50 range.
It isn't difficult to manipulate the total bid sum. All you need to do is place lots of bids far below where you expect sales.
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Post 2525005 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.05h):
According to Moody, there are bids totaling more than $50 million in the $0 - $2.50 range.
It isn't difficult to manipulate the total bid sum. All you need to do is place lots of bids far below where you expect sales.
max bid sum (range $0-$265) was $24M -> there is not $50M in range $0-$2 (edit: and never was)
Oops, you are right about total in $0-2 range.
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Post 2554904 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
This market has been very unusual.
Unusual is the norm in this market.
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Post 2554973 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
This market has been very unusual.
Unusual is the norm in this market.
No, normally it behaves like it usually does. How it's behaving now is atypical.
Frequent atypical behavior is normal in this market.
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Post 2554987 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.06h):
It's too wild to have a "normal." I'm not comfortable pointing to any event(s) as unusual when I've come to expect erratic movements due to all the manipulation.
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Post 2631220 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
Would anyone be surprised to learn that the Winklevoss twins were almost solely responsible for bid-walling Bitcoin from single to triple digits?
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Post 2631247 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
Would anyone be surprised to learn that the Winklevoss twins were almost solely responsible for pumping Bitcoin from single to triple digits with bid-walls?
No more surprised than to hear that they now want to cash out and realise that they can't

Wouldn't it make more sense to take cash from the IPO to manipulate the price further before cashing out? They might have enough cash and coins to drive the price up and down at will.
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Post 2631522 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.07h):
If everything goes smoothly, when is the soonest that the twins can start selling shares?
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Post 2648579 (copy this link) (by Quantum_Negatum) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.08h):
Jaroslaw, you gonna bring us down to single digits tonight or tomorrow?