All posts made by kobilica in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 15527088 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?
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Post 15527369 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?
your DDOS sucked, we can still post
I had gut feeling it would fall, I stopped thinking and started selling.
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Post 15527482 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Why is the price still dropping?
People are scared and want to get out. Looks like it will keep falling lol.
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Post 15527604 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Why is the price still dropping?
People are scared and want to get out. Looks like it will keep falling lol.
I was wrong, actually I have no fucking idea what is going to happen. I am drained.
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Post 15527693 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Why is the price still dropping?
Main reason of falling rate of BTC is halving. People still thinking that after halving price of bitcoin will goes down as it will hard to mine as rewards will be half than now!
People are selling their bitcoins so as per demand and suply formula price of bitcoins is going down.
Keep selling

Lets see if we can get anymore coins for low $600's.
Last block mined so long ago . . . 2016-07-09 17:20:24 Is it because miners are going offline?
I hope nothing went wrong. . .
Bitcoin must be broken!
lol !
price is getting stable. Drop was because of DDOS and halving reward bug on sites -> panic selling.
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Post 15527744 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?
If you sold before the dump, then that is good, because you can buy back at a lower price, but if you sold during the process of the dumping (or near the low price point hoping for a lower low), then you may need to take a loss and buy back before the price get's too far above your sell point. On the other hand, you could take a chance and wait it out, which may or may not pay out (despite being a bit stressful to wait out and hope for another dump, which is not out of the question at this point).

I am lucky noob

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Post 15527987 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?
If you sold before the dump, then that is good, because you can buy back at a lower price, but if you sold during the process of the dumping (or near the low price point hoping for a lower low), then you may need to take a loss and buy back before the price get's too far above your sell point. On the other hand, you could take a chance and wait it out, which may or may not pay out (despite being a bit stressful to wait out and hope for another dump, which is not out of the question at this point).

I am lucky noob

You bought back, or not yet?
I usually like to stagger my bets rather than to attempt to play too many BTC all at once.. and accordingly, if I were to sell 4BTC all at once, that better fucking mean that I have at least 200 BTC in my portfolio or otherwise I am pretty confident that we are going to experience at least a 10% correction, and I would be buying back every 2% or so, once the correction stabilizes.
I also think that it is safer to sell on the way up and buy on the way down rather than selling on the way down (even though once in a while you could get lucky to attempt to time such).
No, this is all I have. Yes, noobish, I shouldn't trade with all my money but hey... let me tell you something

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I follow China charts, because EU charts are lagging around 5 second after chinas. (Euro has the smallest volume of BTC, CNY the biggest).
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Post 15528002 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Just got margin called. Again. Worst day of my life.
Yeah, right... you are either a dumb-ass or making shit up, again.
[why not both, meme?]
You're the gentleman who made me feel bad about being so trusting...
594 on BTC-e

I was promised we would *never* go below 600

Don't be an idiot.
First: BTC-e is not reflective of overall BTC prices, HELLO?
Second: If anyone tells you "never" in relation to bitcoin, then by definition, they must be either misleading or misinformed or more likely, you are making shit up in order to act like a drama queen...

I guess I should stop trusting people so much. They seemed nice . . . you're not even nice, you're just rude.
And now on this, the worst fucking day of my life, just as I'm at my lowest and most fragile, you return to torment me some more? To rub your poisonous hatred into my wounds?
What kind of a heartless monster are you?
Man man, calm your tits, we are returning now to original price.
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Post 15528510 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Somebody tried to short market (BTCCHINA) and failed lol.
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?
If you sold before the dump, then that is good, because you can buy back at a lower price, but if you sold during the process of the dumping (or near the low price point hoping for a lower low), then you may need to take a loss and buy back before the price get's too far above your sell point. On the other hand, you could take a chance and wait it out, which may or may not pay out (despite being a bit stressful to wait out and hope for another dump, which is not out of the question at this point).

I am lucky noob

You bought back, or not yet?
I usually like to stagger my bets rather than to attempt to play too many BTC all at once.. and accordingly, if I were to sell 4BTC all at once, that better fucking mean that I have at least 200 BTC in my portfolio or otherwise I am pretty confident that we are going to experience at least a 10% correction, and I would be buying back every 2% or so, once the correction stabilizes.
I also think that it is safer to sell on the way up and buy on the way down rather than selling on the way down (even though once in a while you could get lucky to attempt to time such).
No, this is all I have. Yes, noobish, I shouldn't trade with all my money but hey... let me tell you something

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I follow China charts, because EU charts are lagging around 5 second after chinas. (Euro has the smallest volume of BTC, CNY the biggest).
I have my doubts about whether I should take you seriously.
First: you gave a bit of information about what you had supposedly done, but you are not really responding regarding your strategy to buy back or if you did buy back.
Second: seems quite fantastical that anyone who claims that they don't know what they are doing would sell the whole stash after we have been experiencing several unsuccessful attempts to push the price down.. so there seems to be a bit more upwards price pressures rather than downward pressures, at the moment.
Third: asserting that chinese exchanges are leading tends to be a FUCD spreading disinformation campaign.. Yeah, people say it .. but really nonsense.
Please, do not take me seriously, I am just a noob and.. still learning. I did buy back all 4 BTC @ around 580€.
My strategy? Holding but trying to win shorts.. I do lose sometimes (it costs me some trading fee that is all), but when I do win short, I gain everything back + profit.
Not best strategy I know.
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Post 15529267 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Panic buying started?
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Post 15529406 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Just got back. I see the halving came and went without a whimper (as expected) and we're most of the way back from the little pre-halving long squeeze.
Ho hum, sideways still. Time for a short squeeze now?
Yeah looks like it.. shitload of people sold but price kept rising and now they are like "

, i don't want to miss this train, buy buy buy"
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Post 15529632 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Yeah looks like it.. shitload of people sold but price kept rising and now they are like "

, i don't want to miss this train, buy buy buy"
Shitload? Looked like just one to me.
Doubt it's just one.
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Post 15530075 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
What miners might be thinking right now:
1. "if I stop mining now others will mine instead of me so I better not stop mining now"
2. "i will continue mining because others will stop mining"
3. "i wont let all this equipment go to waste"
4. "what halvening? what is that"

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Post 15530540 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
http://www.bitcoinwatch.com/6.14 blocks per hour, hashrate rising slightly ... so much BS FUD and failed doomer-mongering around the halving, what's the next propaganda meme they'll try bashing bitcoin with? ... every cheap shot and underhand trick they try only makes bitcoin more resilient , diminishing returns, soon it will be cheaper to just buy bitcoin and get on board, just like mining at some point it is more profitable to be an honest miner.
Dark side wants coins too

can't wait for lightening network, if this shit works out we will have milisecond transactions -> usability of bitcoin skyrockets. -> we will soon talk mBTC

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Post 15534452 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
So where's the big rise
Just wait some 2 months and you'll see it

By this graph, the price is now (July 2016) about 200$, so I call BS.
if you lift the graph up to the right point ($630) it makes more sense, but still...
You must move it left, because this time people expected halvening and bought coins before halvening

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Post 15534575 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
http://www.bitcoinwatch.com/6.14 blocks per hour, hashrate rising slightly ... so much BS FUD and failed doomer-mongering around the halving, what's the next propaganda meme they'll try bashing bitcoin with? ... every cheap shot and underhand trick they try only makes bitcoin more resilient , diminishing returns, soon it will be cheaper to just buy bitcoin and get on board, just like mining at some point it is more profitable to be an honest miner.
Dark side wants coins too

would be good if they could fuck off and leave us alone for one day ... take a holiday with all their multiple personalities sometime maybe? guys are just worthless parasites
I doubt they gained much this time, i remember huge sell offs and price didn't even moved.
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Post 15541388 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
It's time to invest more money.. is it ok, if I place order at cheaper price, will it ever get fulfilled? (maybe only if short happens)
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Post 15541590 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
True, price was higher pre-prehalvening, but that was bubble (and price lasted only 3 days or so..).
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Post 15546881 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
-snip- nevermind really, miss-interpreted upper posts

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Post 15547195 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I am not trolling, I just mis-read upper posts.
Btw, this is only 1 site I post on which theme is about bitcoin.
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Post 15552107 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
guys stop scaring me with breaking the triangle
tomorrow I go to send money to exchange asap
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Post 15564036 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Barely escaped the crash...

Too bad now I am afraid even to pee because.. 'buy the dip'
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Post 15564140 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Barely escaped the crash...

Too bad now I am afraid even to pee because.. 'buy the dip'
See, now this is right perfectly on topic. But it's odd. What crash? What dip? What tho?
It's over, luckily.

It was mini crash.
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Post 15564157 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Yeah.
Fucking fees ate any profit I made anyway. It's outrageous.. 5€ per trade, so 10€ total. I could have bought 5 sandwiches with that.
Sometimes life can be meaningless.
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Post 15564224 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Are you saying I should code malware to destroy things..? Now that is even more meaningless. I'd rather get rich and build stuff.
But thinking about sandwiches won't get me anywhere, you are right.
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Post 15564384 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Are you saying I should code malware to destroy things..? Now that is even more meaningless. I'd rather get rich and build stuff.
But thinking about sandwiches won't get me anywhere, you are right.
My friend. I understand your search for meaning has left you with many questions. Well I want you to imagine a world in which those with the answers might somehow be compensated for providing them to you...How would that be?
That sounds interesting, but not sure what you have in mind really.
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Post 15569629 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
lucky the price is $666 and not $0 that would be bad
waiting on those walls
$666 is not a great sign.. that's some illuminati banker luciferian shit right there. It keeps going back to that price for ages now. They're just taunting us.
At least it gives time to keep accumulating. They won't be able to hold it there forever.
Most likely an athiest early adopter.
It is probably losing him money to troll Christians (which is the purpose of the athiest religion).
The purpose of the athiest religion is promote the Communism and the Homosexuality.
Atheism is not religion, it's lack of religion.
And Satanism (LaVeyan) is one form of atheism - it's actually quite rational.
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Post 15570251 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Why is price falling down now, anyone know what happened? Bad news again?
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Post 15570543 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
What is good news in this case? If news are good for bitcoin, price should go up. But it wasn't good news for bitcoin, was it?
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Post 15572227 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Yeah, anything else I discuss, my posts get deleted by mod. So it's best to close this thread until prices tarts moving again.
Though, I just bought again some BTCs, I think price is quite stable right now, so it will either stay like that or it will go up.
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Post 15573824 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Why is price falling down now, anyone know what happened? Bad news again?
It's called normal oscillations in the price... remember yesterday? The price went to $678.. about 24 hours ago?
It doesn't make much sense that you want to call this current situation "down" movement, when prices are kind of in a range... and bitcoin price is a kind of moving dynamic, but it seems that at this time, our range is approximately $540 to $778...
We are currently kind of in the middle of that range, no? Or at least reasonably moving around in that range towards the middle...
Within our current $540 to $778 range we can have normal or extreme upwards and downward corrections.. We have been here for about a month... and if we break into the lower end of the current range, then maybe we could concede.. "prices seem to be going down"
On the other hand, if we start to move into the upper end of our current price range, we may conclude the opposite...
Right now, we just have seemingly normal price movements on fairly low volume and from time to time testing within our current price range (which is still quite big range to be in), but the current price range generally seems to be upwardly projected from the last price range that we were in (which was largely between $360 and $460 for a large number of months)
TLDR: you seem to be getting too anxious in looking at short term charts because BTC prices are more trending upwards rather than downwards at the moment.

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True, it's just oscillation. And yes, true, we are in middle range now... halving has not even started yet!
Second, also true, getting too worked up about those oscillations. Thanks for clarity, friend.
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Post 15596705 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Though I was thinking about wallets that would process transactions, wouldn't that be quite a speed up? I mean, if everyone with Android phone / laptop, that has wallet on, would process transactions. But afaik a processing/mining node needs to produce block and that is costly, right?
Nope, that wouldn't work I think.
On side note, price is the most stable today compared to last month.
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Post 15609187 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I just bought something with bitcoin for first time and needed to set up my first wallet on mobile phone

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Experience was.. too easy. Only annoying part was confirmation time, but I can wait half hour no problem.
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Post 15609345 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Wont there be trust on Bitcoins? Same use as gold? Should make price good
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Post 15625097 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
CIA? Nah. I wouldn't want the pay cut. Those guys work for peanuts.
DIA?
Indirectly...as a contractor. I work for General Dynamics on the Distributed Common Ground System - Army (DCGS-A). An ancient intelligence tool that I helped develop in 2005 when I was in Iraq that is still kicking.
A quick google search would tell you the same thing so it's not like I'm revealing anything new.
But ya, a libertarian in the heart of the MIC. I get to see first hand how our tax dollars are wasted. And I'll be the first to stand at the head of the line if you're going to throw your money away.
So, you are software engineer? Nice

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Post 15626064 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I really have feeling bitcoin will rise up for quite some time from now on

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Post 15638211 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Approaching 666$ again

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Post 15662623 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Look where we are this AM, back to $666.

Maybe all those little "Satanist" kiddies are right, LOL. At least it's higher than $420.

Personally I want to see $9999.

Next target is $1337
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Post 15669354 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Tbh, only problem I see is micro-transactions (like coffee), you can't pay quickly enough with bitcoin to be practical (seconds speaking here). Lightening should help with it though.
So, is seg-wit already adopted massively? Don't stuff like wallets and such clients still lack it? Because segwit is needed before lightening can be implemented.
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Post 15669389 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
(I am speaking about confirmation time, cause non-confirmed (and later rejected) open doors for exploiters)
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Post 15669634 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Tbh, only problem I see is micro-transactions (like coffee), you can't pay quickly enough with bitcoin to be practical (seconds speaking here). Lightening should help with it though.
So, is seg-wit already adopted massively? Don't stuff like wallets and such clients still lack it? Because segwit is needed before lightening can be implemented.
Again...not a problem. As someone who has paid for coffee (actually it was a chai latte) with bitcoins. Not a problem whatsoever.
Spend your bitcoins and find out how things work in the real world.
I did spent my bitcoins already, payment is instant but confirmation is not. It takes a while (10-20 minutes) I think.
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Post 15681629 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Tbh, only problem I see is micro-transactions (like coffee), you can't pay quickly enough with bitcoin to be practical (seconds speaking here). Lightening should help with it though.
So, is seg-wit already adopted massively? Don't stuff like wallets and such clients still lack it? Because segwit is needed before lightening can be implemented.
Again...not a problem. As someone who has paid for coffee (actually it was a chai latte) with bitcoins. Not a problem whatsoever.
Spend your bitcoins and find out how things work in the real world.
I did spent my bitcoins already, payment is instant but confirmation is not. It takes a while (10-20 minutes) I think.
Yep, transaction is instant. Which for things like micro transactions at a coffee shop, they are not too worried about a double spend. For one thing the transaction is small, secondly most people buying coffee at a cafe sit down there and drink it. And most companies price a small amount of theft into their business.
For big companies like Starbucks you just use the Fold app. Which you fill up your Starbucks card with bitcoins and pay at the counter with that card. Plus you save 20% on your purchase.
Most companies that accept bitcoins use a service like BitPay or CoinBase or Pey. Those companies handle the subtleties for their clients.
True, amount of thiefs made this way is not big enough to be worrying in real life

. Though faster transactions will help raise bitcoin price!
Which is why lots of smart people are working on this.
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Post 15681682 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Hi Elwar,
I saw your post about General Dynamics and DCGS-A.
I feel your pain.
Have you considered work where you're not so tied up to the government insanity that is the military?
One brief moment when I was looking for a job I added private companies to my list. My skillset is wide and not specialized because of how contracts work. They need someone to fill a slot, they'll put you in that slot even if you know it just a little as long as you have a lot of experience and have a degree (and a clearance). So I've been a network engineer, software engineer, system admin, Java/C++/.NET/Ada, etc. A wide range of skills but no specialization in one single skill. While searching for a job in the private sector they tend to look for someone that is very specialized in one skill set, especially at the senior level. I interviewed for several Java positions and one person told me that I was more of a junior level programmer but my salary requirement was senior level. Which was true since I use Java for most positions but I am never a Java developer.
Plus the clearance I have, only .001% of Americans have that clearance. Which makes it easy to get a good paying job for any job that requires that clearance. There is certainly no outsourcing of my job to lower paid foreigners. That and my willingness to travel and live anywhere in the world (including war zones) gives me a very good salary. Getting paid $250k-$500k per year is not unheard of for my type of work in war zone environments (working 84 hour work weeks, 365 days a year). That's a lot of bitcoins.
I do plan on retiring in a few years, work on something I can just do over the Internet and travel the world. I'll retire a lot sooner if bitcoin goes over $2-3k.
Good luck mate!
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Post 15683561 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
price depends on actual story that is happening around bitcoin, no?
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Post 15686594 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Total Reduced Supply since halvening = 25,000 btc
That's slightly more than the much ballyhooed 24,000 the australian authorities 'auction' of confiscated coins that was "dumped" on the market ...
888 by September
1000 by October.
600*24000 = 14.4 million €
I still think we need months of holding for big price increase
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Post 15718885 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Bitcoin price is rising again.. looks like back to 666$

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Post 15735061 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Any person with good mathematical ability knows that we will need months for price to start rise.

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Post 15766000 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
why would whales give to the people

dont they trade so they profit?
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Post 15766660 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Why else would the price be about to hit $4xx? Little guy can buy too
As in little guy can't buy right now

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Post 15768324 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I have over 100 BTC in Coinbase.... what do?
First, never disclose how much you have... and where !
Meh, like 100 BTC is big on exchange.. exchanges hold ~10000s BTCs or more...

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Post 15770770 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Price started to recover, buy time

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Post 15775511 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Looks like we are in down trend

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Post 15775562 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Nope, it's clusterfuck.. bad news tell bitcoiners it's down trend, but charts show opposite..
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Post 15781243 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):

This is today (hours ago) from Kraken.
What is this?
Top price of both candles were 589.30300€
Does this number means anything or is someone just fucking with my head?
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Post 15781774 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Maybe a bug, yeah.
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Post 15781921 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Buying frenzy is about to start.. it already started I think.
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Post 15787075 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I imagine meeting was just fun time of pressing sell button and smiling at angry people on forums

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Post 15792362 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Fuck this, good thing I sold as soon as I saw hack.
Meanwhile on Kraken:
6 hour candles..

Mark of the best (666)?
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Post 15793066 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Panic dump + bitfinex hack happened.
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Post 15793092 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
I regret not having any fiat left, I'd buy this dippiest of the dips dip right now.
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Post 15860427 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
Ok, thanks!
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Post 15866432 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
The short term rally is over. When you break through the lower 1D MA and return to nearly the starting point, the rally is over. The upwards momentum you are seeing now is due to brexit, which saw the GBP drop 15% and gold rise 6% over the past few hours.
I'm afraid I can no longer trade here anymore due to the issues at Bitfinex. I could lose my whole account if the site goes down while I'm on the wrong side of a leveraged trade (especially if its ETH). Hodling on-chain is a much better proposition and guaranteed to hold some kind of value. Since I'm already at the minimum amount of coins that I'm allowed to hold in a pact that I made with myself in 2013, I have no choice but to
HODL
see you next year (if there's somewhere to trade).
Tera called MtFinex 3 months ago.
He didn't predict the hack, he stopped trading on it after it went offline for days as Bitcoin crashed. Half its users probably made the same decision. Knowing that your exchange could go offline for days during a price crash is a nightmare. Watching your coins go down and down in value when you can't access them is terrible, and for leveraged traders it's even worse.
I would do the same!
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Post 15872441 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
T|hat was a tiny price drop of $10, and the price has gone back up by $10 to where it started from. Until Bitfinex opens up trading and withdrawals the price will go sideways. The trading/withdrawals is the only thing that's going to move the price.
Nope, kraken is still 10€ down since that new. But it will recover.
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Post 15884022 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
-snip-
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Post 15888168 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
How are you guys with Bitfinex withdrawals? Any of you got your money out of that mess?
According to coinmarketcap Bitfinex had a 38000 BTC trading volume in the last 24hrs
That's really nothing for finex
I got my 64% back.
I'm thinking I'll need to use the courts to get the rest back but it's almost worth $5000 to not have to deal with the US justice religion.
What about getting money for: emotional damage, them lying etc etc?
And if you think about courts.. why not find group of people that got scammed by bfx?
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Post 15891519 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Why is price oscillating from between 530-540€
Do people play pink ponk with money or what
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Post 15900240 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Yeah I see, would problem be legit he would have some proof but it's probably just FUD.
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Post 15909883 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
And your prediction stands on what?

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Post 15920873 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
It crashed 20€ minutes before halving
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Post 15920972 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
But after halving, it rose a bit higher, then the price started to go down again (and then days later... boom hack)
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Post 15923856 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Now guys, I will pump some sense into you.
Price will keep falling maybe for day or so.
But remember! Bitcoin price now is CHEAP. And banks open tomorrow.
What this means? People want bitcoins, and cheaper bitcoins are even better. Tomorrow people will go to banks and send money to bitcoin exchanges.
No wonder price felt so much over the weekend, because banks don't work over weekend.

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Post 15924342 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
I can know much as you do, with my eyes looking at graph and thinking logically. (and reading facts on internet)
Right now you see shitload of FUD everywhere, fake news about bitcoin "dying slow death", new fake profiles, and bitfinex trash situation. Don't you just sense fear and uncertainty?
More facts:
- Trading bots love low price, they will buy fuck out of it once the long trends reverses
- First halving price&after

You see, bitcoin never touched that price again.
And right now, bitcoin price is lower than it was pre/post 2nd halving. And this is just because of bitfinex situation.
- Bitcoin is still developing tech.
It's good time to buy if you ask me. If you are not sure, wait 3-4 days.
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Post 15924500 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
No, I am not a whale. And I do not have some insider info. It just seems right now community is lacking optimism because of bitfinex hack and horrible price crash. And it is true that small volume gives ability to manipulate price. But this manipulation is harder everyday.
What I actually feel is fear. But bear with me. Times when I felt fear just the opposite happened (price jumped up) and times when I felt strong euphoria - price crashed down. But traders ignore feelings, right?
I'd say wait for 3-4 days and we will see where we land. Right now it's fear clusterfuck.
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Post 15934817 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
No, I am not a whale. And I do not have some insider info. It just seems right now community is lacking optimism because of bitfinex hack and horrible price crash. And it is true that small volume gives ability to manipulate price. But this manipulation is harder everyday.
What I actually feel is fear. But bear with me. Times when I felt fear just the opposite happened (price jumped up) and times when I felt strong euphoria - price crashed down. But traders ignore feelings, right?
I'd say wait for 3-4 days and we will see where we land. Right now it's fear clusterfuck.
Based on your own feelings (described as fear at this point), it seems that you are attempting to mock some common points of wisdom, specifically to attempt to not become too emotional regarding either your investment or your investment choices.
Do you really believe that advice, regarding keeping emotions out of your trades to be bad advice?
Yes, I will concede that humans have emotions, and even if you program some bot trading, you are still emotionally attached to your investment in some degree, otherwise you would not have spent time considering it and making such investments.
I doubt that anyone is really suggesting that you should be a bot or have no human emotions in respect to your investment, but over time, you should be able to establish systems (whether it is buy/ HODLing or trading) in which you have a general plan for no matter which direction the market goes. Maybe you do not know every single specific of your plan because sometimes the plan may be that you need to review your plan and to reconsider your plan at various points and upon the triggering of certain events.
Anyhow, part of my point is that you can establish ways to attempt to minimize emotions..
I only use myself as an example because I am able to talk about my own situation, and surely from time to time, I feel emotions when the price moves against me and when it is very volatile, because a person cannot really know when it is going to stop in one direction or another, and even with myself, my built in assumption over time is that bitcoin prices are going to go up. Therefore, I structure my strategy in such a way that my whole portfolio does better when prices go up, so yeah, my portfolio was doing fucking great all the way up to $779, and it is not in as great of shape at $566 as it was at $779.
Anyhow, I do have to reconfigure from time to time, and I attempt to be prepared for the price to go down in considerable ways, even if it were to return to the $200s.. though of course, matters are much better going up rather than down, and less down is better than a lot down.. yet overall staying above the mid-$00s is good, too.
I guess my main points is to prepare mentally and to prepare with your portfolio with a plan that is suitable for you, and if you are becoming extremely emotional, that is likely a sign that you have over invested either in one direction or another.. so you may need to tweak your holdings in order to remove some of the anxiety that is being evoked by the then current situation.
Hello!
Thanks for clear and explanatory reply.
Indeed, I was anxious about my plan because I had no plan for down. Now I do just to calm my nerves down. Because today's dip was good enough to cause me to smoke shitloads of ciggaretes.
Though, my story is developing just right: "price will drop a bit but it will recover".
We still see FUD going on with fake threads. But in case it doesn't, I will just buy more.
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Post 15941100 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Panic buy has begun?

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Post 15941273 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Though selling pressure still higher on buying on most exchanges, something has triggered this.
15 minute candle chart shows mean reversal, possibly bots started to buy again.
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Post 15941458 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
People are tired of trading on BitFinex it seems.
Also BitStamp just started doing more for security (trezor wallet)

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Post 15941755 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
NSA won't buy coins, this is pure non sense. 1 million bitcoins? Are you for real.
What we are experiencing, just maybe is return of optimism and effect of halving. Mining difficulty has reached all times high, remember?
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Post 15941845 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
How can 1.6 millions $ or 2700 BTC affect the market? This ammount of volume is traded in one minute on big exchanges

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Post 15941986 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
NSA didn't create Bitcoin.
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Post 15942024 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Before you claim such things, you need proof. NSA did a lot of things but I strongly doubt Bitcoin was one of their inventions.
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Post 15942137 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Only connection it has is that people working in NSA are cryptography experts.. but so are lots of academics working in FinTech, Database programming, IT Security experts.. Mathematicians ...
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Post 15942277 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
true but... auctions also had much more bitcoins.
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Post 15942451 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
NSA didn't create Bitcoin.
MK Ultra is not a branch of the NSA ... after all.

MK Ultra was evil research group, that researched psychology of human. It was not math related research group.
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Post 15942460 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Obviously, why the hell would the NSA actively try to help people avoid government taxes & make anonymous money transfers.
You only *think* bitcoin is anonymous.
True, it's not.
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Post 15943012 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Obviously, why the hell would the NSA actively try to help people avoid government taxes & make anonymous money transfers.
You only *think* bitcoin is anonymous.
True, it's not.
it is, if you really want to.
Correct, you have point, but only if:
If you don't convert to fiat - it is. As soon as you convert to fiat, you might be seen by someone / pictured by camera ATH.
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Post 15943579 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xz8je/bitstamp_working_on_adding_support_for_ledger_and/It's not implemented yet, and I didn't red article carefully. Btw, Trezor wallet = hardware wallet.
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Post 15945444 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
HODLing is completely sane!

Gold is limited, so is Bitcoin.
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Post 15952041 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Buy pressure is still bigger than sell, it's just people expecting to buy coins at lower price

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Post 15953049 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
What about dark pools?
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Post 15963594 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Remember people, Mt.Gox was manipulated and this is why price skyrocketed. They BTC that was bought was bought with NO FIAT, so it was all artificial.
If you remove this bubble from graph, you can see clearly where BTC is heading. It's clear uptrend. Price wants to go up and it will go up.
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Post 15963703 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Nah, it's more like rocket which then falls down but then there is better rocket which goes up even more =) (what I want to say, there will be no rocket, it will be slow uptrend, unless another great manipulation happens)
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Post 15973777 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):

Gold is limited, so is Bitcoin.
Love that graph. It speaks volumes. With a megaphone.
A 10-year chart, set conspicuously to gold's bull run, squeaks rather than roars. Present a 100-year chart and we can talk about toppling the walls of Jericho.
It's not about gold. It's about fiat currency losing its value over time. And you know why.
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Post 15974934 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Well we will see in future if BitFinex lied.. I think lots of eyes are on them, inside and outside, it's just matter of time until someone blows the whistle.
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Post 15977958 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Probably bots/algorithms went crazy, you can also see that someone has lost a lot of money.
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Post 15982846 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
So price is up huh

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Post 16058073 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Let the bitcoin price fall.. payday is getting closer

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Post 16105003 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.57h):
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Missed a half a week and see I didn't miss anything. $578 according to BitcoinAverage.
That's a full month of sideways. Flat August. What will September bring?
I'd buy more coins before the probable price rise but I need to use my extra cash to buy my post-season baseball tickets before the deadline and secure my seats (and more) for next year.
My excess tickets will return more than double on Stubhub. Hopefully my bitcoins will return at least that much. Either way it's better than keeping money in some goofy bank.
Just buy small amount like 0.1BTC.. can't hurt.
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Post 16515076 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.58h):
Worst case correction : 450€
Best case: current trend continues (UP UP UP!)

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Post 17374539 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
"Sell on news" beware guys.
Also new bitcoin client released, should boost price.
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Post 17374564 (copy this link) (by kobilica) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.00h):
what a rough choice is to buy or not buy at this price.
I look at it this way. In 2013 the price shot up from about $125 to about $1200. Having been in bitcoin since 2010 I knew when it went up to $200 that the price was too high
for that time. But when the price finally returned to normal almost 2 years later the price was around $300 which was the right price
for that time.
Even though buying at $200 was buying overvalued coins...in the long run they were cheap coins.
$1,000 will be cheap coins in a few years no matter what the price does in the short term.
$1200 happened because Mt.Gox was hacked.. there was trading bot later discovered that kept buying BTC at whatever price, boosting price to impossible range. So hacker has stolen BTC and side-effect was very inflated price.