it takes ~1hour to move coin
a week to move fiat
and there's only so much traders can have in reserves  

arbitrage is not instant.

Is there really a time when a totalitarian regime isn't doing something equally stupid as implementing capital controls and currency manipulation? Rinse and repeat.

How do you mean? As in "ain't no way Danny Brewster or  Ukyo Jon or friedcat or TF or [...] could've sleezed away with millions in fiat, but Bitcoin really came through," that sort of shine?

Well no, bitcoin lends itself to scam and crime particularly well, far better than fiat. That's why everyone from kidnappers to pedos to ransomwhare haxxt0rs are starting to use bitcoin. And that's why scams which got burnt down in the fiat real world sometime around the turn of (last) century are getting a new lease on life in bitcon world.

But you say you don't mean those? So tell me, which crises did Bitcoin shine in, specifically? Since "We've seen it proven a few times now"?

how much do signature campaigns work, because if bitcoin takes off even a little and we get newer people im sure it would be worthwhile.

There is a cost. See _my_ sig.

You too.

it's been almost ready for six months. I'll believe it when it happens.

it's not supposed to be a market place specific to anything. the point is that people can use it for whatever they want, not just drugs and fake passports.

If everyone sees the same pattern it kind of becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

No, you are right, if this is what the consensus is, then thats what it is.

I'm worried that it seems the impetus is to cut it off before it can be established by the means with which it was originally intended to be reached - by running the software of your choice.

What is SUPPOSED to happen according to economic theory is that as quantity of money creation decreases (halvings), velocity of money (transactions) is supposed to go up to compensate, maintaining the balance of MV=PQ.  This clearly cannot happen if scaling is slower than halvings.  

Somebody please tell me the error of my thinking, or a slow liquidation becomes a serious consideration.  

1) They don't effect the velocity (v). They effect the quantity (M).  So because MV=PQ, a decrease in M MUST be compensated by a proportional increase in V in order for the equation to balance out. If it doesn't, then either price or quantity (or both) on the other side must adjust.

Ok, that makes sense. Thank you. So let's look at M as meaning the full 21 million bitcoins ever to be mined. M is constant, but as we approach this limit, we also approach the V limit of 1GB blocks or whatever.  At some point in the future around 2040 at the latest, there will be no more real movement on the left hand side of the equation, right?

you think they will let me come to this thing
i am after all the CEO of bitcoin's cheerleading department, am i not?
 

Core is so concerned about node dropoff that they now want to ban any node not running their code. Makes sense.

Damn! Blocks are fucking full! I've got and important tx waiting for its third confirmation for ages ><

ok, so you've dialed back on the "conspiracy" and doubled-down on "conflict of interest" ... now would it blow your mind too much if the "conflict of interest" was a misinterpretation of the fact that blockstream founders understood the technical limits of bitcoin before anyone else and decided to build a company knowing they had to build within those limitations?

and chumps like Brian Armstrong never understood the tech too deeply but knew he wanted to make mega-bucks and would do whatever it took?

O.k.  Well, maybe I do not understand the facts, enough.  I thought that classic mined less than 10 blocks, so far...

And, if there are like 10 blocks a day mined by classic, then maybe it could become more significant, no?  

if there's an angry mob it's not because of 1 small oversight.
I was and still am perfectly willing to support segwit.
i'm angry because, we had this agreement and now it's falling apart, who's making it fall apart? Blockstream guys...


BTW, has it been confirmed that Blockstream can/have veto the agreement???

watch it crumble when its confirmed the some of the Blockstream guys have veto power.

if you small blocker truly believe the shit you say you should from a group that wishes to lower block limit to 0.5MB.

you'll get more decentralization and security, for everything else there's the Lighting Network promiseland.

This proposal is the only ray of hope I see for overcoming the duel problems of scaling and miner concentration. 

LOL.
It's always fun to meet people that can't imagine a world without Internet.

Gold does not have a password and that is good, you can't forget it!
Gold is heavy at current price. When it appreciates x100 it will not be so heavy!

You prefer the heavy, expensive, power hungry equipment to mine 'digital' gold, or the heavy, expensive, power hungry equipment to guard your hot wallet, or the heavy, expensive, power hungry equipment to guard your password from being stolen?...

Crypto money is a hype. If some crisis event causes Internet fragmentation this hype is dead, dude. Face it!

intersting that brexit could really happen against all that mainstream media etc.

this has a long-term influence on world econonmy, stability of eu and also gold/btc price.

 
 

My mistake.

Does anyone still think it's not an artificial drop?

determinism says that, that the past, present, and future is identifiable as an unbreakable chain of circumstances of which no single link in such a chain could possibly be avoided or altered. so if there was a entity that knew everything about everything he could predict the future, because for any one moment there is only ONE possible physical further moment.
- The Truth

and so i say:


Existence precedes essence, but the the truth precedes all.

does it really make any difference if the next possible outcome is chosen by true randomness or a predetermined set of random?
the end result is the same, we get an immutable chain of events which no one can really control.
i guess your suggestion that the future cannot be predicted because of the true randomness factor.
it would be interesting to understand how they have determined that true randomness actually exists...

Then surely you know of Sean Carroll

Actually, you are probably correct that there is quite a lot of market anticipation regarding this whole bitfinex reopening matter, and of course a central fear of Bitfinex would be to experience a run on the bank, so I think that the way that bitfinex opens up and possibly even further specifics regarding the extent to which they plan to allow for the trading of Bitfinex tokens could assist in attempting to dissuade a run on the bank... to allow for withdraws, but to also create various incentives and disincentives.  

In their reopening, Bitfinex should be focusing on attempts to communicate and create incentives for folks to stay and using their exchange rather than creating disincentives for account holders to leave.  The creation of incentives will inspire greater confidence in their solvency - at least their short term solvency.  

Folks may be concerned about the long term solvency of Bitfinex, but it does seem that long term solvency matters as much as short and medium term solvency.  If Bitfinex can create the impression that they are solvent in the short term and in the medium term, then folks will continue to use their services, and if folks continue to use their services, the long term solvency becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, at least the impression of having such long term solvency.

In the short term, Bitfinex may even allow for fee free trading for a period of time after their reopening (maybe one or two months of fee free), which seems to have been the practice of several other exchanges after they experience significant levels of disrupted services.  In that regard, acting anxiously to withdraw funds from Bitfinex may be the less profitable act (even though perhaps the more prudent choice, depending on your personal risk profile and depending on how matters play out).  

Possibly within the next day or two we will find out a few more details from Bitfinex regarding their opening strategy - and maybe we will even be able to experience a bit of bitfinex trading on or before Wednesday (am I being too optimistic?)  

Someone care to speculate what price would reach BTC if a random guy (or agency) decides to buy 1 million?

We're probably inside a simulation being trolled by an artificial super-intelligence. Just go with it. 

Only me and bitcoin core can manage my private key ...

Is the private key stored on flash memory inside the trezor?

What happens if the trezor's memory becomes faulty like a flash drive's eventually does? Do you lose your bitcoins unless you have backed up your private key? I don't trust any one storage system with my private keys because they all become faulty eventually.

Hey tok _ n

I was thinking about our recent interaction, and I am really thinking that if you were to consider a kind of weighted average to the trade volumes of exchanges, then that could be more satisfactory overall...

I understand that there has been various discussion about this point of weighted trade volume, and I understand that it could be quite a bit of work to attempt to establish any kind of exact system, and therefore, probably good in concept, even though in practice we may want to merely attempt a kind of ballparking of such weighted trade volume considerations.

TL;DR zero fee volumes can't be used sensibly unless you model those fake and external influences. Different fee volumes probably can't be modelled the way I described but maybe the basic idea is usable.

I personally think that it would be easier not to get caught up too much with any particulars of the exchange, just down grade them a bit from 100% if they have questionable practices.  For example a place like Okcoin or Huobi have extraordinary trade volume, so maybe just count them as 10% or 20%, and maybe even less, if you come to the conclusion that the trade volume does not really represent anything meaningful...

You seem to misunderstand me or to misread me, if you are suggesting that I am saying put your finger into the wind.

Friday night Adam must've been drinking again  
Did you at least returned the kids back?

That was last chance under $750 chaps ... time we ramped up the segwit signalling now and its off to the races.

That was last chance under $750 chaps ... time we ramped up the segwit signalling now and its off to the races.

edit: does your butthurt feel better now snowflake?

More fun facts. CSW was claiming that he owned one of the world's largest supercomputers. Indeed, in my mind, this was a strong piece of evidence supporting his claim. It was even listed on the Top 500 list at # 17:

As late as May 4 of this year, it was listed:
However, the next update of 2016 May 07 dropped the listing:

I've not yet gotten the backstory on this. Of course, I just started looking -- as a background activity -- a couple of days ago. In the meantime, it is just one more piece of evidence against his claim.

'Tis a shame. I thought he'd make an about ideal Satoshi. Would have been a great legend. About what we deserve.  

i don't think there's any way to prove you're satoshi any more. someone else could control whatever keys, most of his accounts have been cracked anyway and whoever really wanted to go the extra mile has had years to come up with their 'evidence'.

nope. if someone had the private key the only thing that means is that they have satoshi's private key. they could've found it, been sent it, bought it, tortured it out of him. anyone on the planet could do that.

that doesn't prove you're satoshi by any means.

by extra mile i mean providing research and evidence you'd been looking into bitcoin's creation for years before.

yep. maybe satoshi went out drinking on the train and left his computer behind, or maybe his mother finds a computer open while he's playing lego in the front room and goes on a spending spree. anything could happen.

just because YOU think BU is a hack job of 0.12.0 core code, doesn't make it true.
BU isn't some fly by night let's try to incress the block size group of lazy hackers...
Core isn't the only show in town, get use to it.

I used as many words as I decided was adequate to respond to the issue.

Well, no. BU has been running on the main chain several times longer than has The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.

Indeed.
In order to get the 95% blocks during a 2016 block period, the miners that are signaling will have to be lucky enough to find 95% of the blocks to activate SegWit.

I am aware that the nodes running it could be above 35% currently but if they are not mining nodes then it is a misconception to a true count.

Looks like we may have a little bit of a battle on Stamp to get passed $780 - but I am getting the sense that there is enough buyer support to get passed that resistance (hopefully)... bringing the battle for $800 to be in our soon to be midst.. and even doable... (more than 1000 coins to get there, though.. maybe I can go back to sleep to make up for the lost sleep in watching the most recent actions?  )  )

Ipse dixit, huh.

At this point, I can theoretically agree that $888.88 could be a bit of a sticking point (not that number exactly because I don't believe in that numerology nonsense), but really, it seems that $999.999 is going to pass as a non-issue.

What I found here or heard is that if you lose your account the only way to get it back is to "prove' such with your btc address on the main page and a private key for such
(any paper wallet with such even empty will do) then you can 'prove' it by sending the private msg that bitcoin has (forget the name) using your private key to sign such

did it once for a usb drive it was a pain of a way to make a sale

I see adam has NO btc address on a profile..thus screwed ..thus his access is never coming back it seems...had friends with accounts here hacked..without above the mods
won't even answer you email

so if you have not done so..make a blank paper btc wallet with private keys it can even be frigging never have btc in it..put it on your profile (for tips hah) and then worse
comes to worse and hacked you can get your account back..pain thou it may be

anyway what I've heard from more then one guy who had his account info lost in 2014 when this site was 'breached'

where is the thread? may I ask for the link?

Posts are pretty frequently deleted here compared to in the past. Far more so than on other threads, I know this from personal experience.   Nothing was taboo here once upon a time, but policy seems to have changed somewhat.

It is also true that different threads are moderated differently and always have been.

Seems like Andreas has become a bull, price wise. This is rather rare for him to speak about:

"The Bitcoin valuation is 12 billion today. [...] Just wait and see what is going to happen in the next two years"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZCVQHtD2l4&feature=youtu.be&t=1818


Recommend to watch the whole talk. By the pitch of his voice you can tell he is really passionate about the subject: 'the war on cash'.
"You got to understand these currency wars are not an accident"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZCVQHtD2l4&feature=youtu.be&t=1756

Approaching the 78.6% fib line. Doubt it will prove resistance, but guess you never know:





Yes, absolutely. I count just ten days where price was higher. How many days have there been since then, over 1000?

If Fibonacci and TA works, it is because they are able to capture human valuation psychology.  Secondary to that, indeed traders might give temporarily give a sort of positive feedback loop when key resistance levels are broken, causing movements to be violent shortly after passing resistance levels.  Of course all of this is tempered by traders anticipating these patterns and frontrunning them, so the more mature a market is, the less I would expect these patterns to be relevant.

Remember this guy? He's still here reading but for some reason doesn't have anything to say...

If you assume price = constant + superimposed sinusoidal curve, with the amplitude of the curve big enough to trigger buying and selling, then by your method, you repeatedly buy low, sell high, over and over again. Which means you make money, assuming the spread and transaction costs are less than what you earn from buying low and selling high.

Any curve can be represented as a sum of sinusoidal curves, i.e. a Fourier series. Therefore, it becomes mathematically provable that your method, if properly implemented, will cause you to benefit from volatility.

Any curve can be represented as a sum of sinusoidal curves, i.e. a Fourier series. Therefore, it becomes mathematically provable that your method, if properly implemented, will cause you to benefit from volatility.

I've never done the proof formally, but the statement to be proved would be something along these lines:
- assume X% allocation bitcoin, and 100-X % allocation fiat at the beginning
- assume price starts at $A and ends at $B, with arbitrary path from A to B
- assume zero spread and zero fees (makes the math simpler, but you'd have to bear in mind this is an oversimplification of the model)
Strategy 1: no buying and no selling at all
Strategy 2: if your percent allocation of wealth in bitcoin rises above or below X% by some fixed amount D (let's say, +/- 5%) due to bitcoin price fluctuations, then buy or sell as needed to keep the % allocation within X +/- D %.

For example: if you set X at 50% at the beginning and D at 5%, then your bot will buy or sell as needed to keep your percent allocation within the range of 45% to 55%

The proof would basically say that Strategy 2 works better than Strategy 1. I think a few more assumptions are needed though. I'm not sure, but I think Strategy 2 is better if we assume that neither bitcoin nor the fiat becomes worthless. Suppose, for example, that the fiat hyperinflates a la Zimbabwe in 2009 or whenever. In that case, Strategy 2 would definitely be a BAD idea, because by the end you would have sold all your bitcoin and you'd have a zillion Zimbabwean dollars worth nothing. But if we assume the fiat currency stays stable, and bitcoin goes to the moon but does so in a very volatile fashion, then I'm pretty sure Strategy 2 can be proven to be superior.

EDIT:
Actually I might also have to assume that you start and end at the same price. Obviously if the price of bitcoin shoots up to $1M, you're better off if you didn't sell any of it at all during the rise, which means Strategy 1 would be better.

Not quite. Any periodic curve can be represented as a sum of sinusoidal curves. The trick is in knowing the periodicity of $=f(t). protip: that f() ain't periodic.

For price to move up, there has to be more buyers at the current price than sellers.

hory sheit

China PBoC researching "RMBCoin" with blockchain tech to "truly achieve the goal of money for the people" ("Bi" for "Renmin" as in "RenMinBi")
 
https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/822617053752422404

That news isn't even new.  I mean I read yesterday or the day before something from PBOC talking about how they believe cryptocurrency is good but the "emission should be controlled by the state".  So I mean, all they really want to do is make a govt slave coin that has nothing to do with Bitcoin at all.  I'm not even sure how that would be bullish.  If anything, they would probably ban Bitcoin after they make their govt slave coin.  All the stuff I read made it sound more like they want to get rid of Bitcoin and replace it rather than "embrace" it.

low volume low movement weekend so far.

i guess everyone is busy celebrating the year of the chicken 

I am an IT guy but when I first heard about Bitcoin I was defensive because I thought gold was the answer.

To this day I have not gone through all of the source code. But I did read the white paper and that got me.

Maybe some IT people might be hesitant because they understand how vulnerable most computers are.

I think it's more your economic views than your views on digital tech.

I have a vision of honey badger strolling casually past gold, like it's just another day in the life 

It's the moment of truth for that 500 coin wall at Stamp.

negative. not an trader at all actually. it's a couple loans from way, way back when the price was like 300 or under. i've just been a fail of a money maker and not gotten it paid down. the thread is out there in the lending sub-forum i'm sure.

I sometimes think goldbug threads should be moved to the altcoin folder.

That said, don't get too smug about gold being vulnerable to space mining. Remember what quantum computing could mean to SHA256.  

I thought so too.

Seems suspiciously like it ...

NO!

went from 1205 to 1336! then down to 1069 and back up to 1280!

WIIILD ASS SHIT

Made the quickest G of my life

I use Nano S and Trezor. I like Trezor better because I can use it with one hand but that is a minor quibble. It is a good idea to keep a portable copy of latest Electrum on your desktop if you are using the Chrome apps for Nano S; once in a while the Ledger servers have a problem usually on a weekend. If you trade Ether you can use MyEtherWallet as a backup to the Ledger Ether Chrome app.

Buggy BU with a remote crash vunerability. Even after a year those ''skilled'' BU dev didn't noticed it, while pushing it asap 

but its written by thezerg, trust is irrelevant, we are the zerg 

I read the SVN data files too, they added a way to have the asserts do (almost)nothing in release
arrests are not meant for release its a debugging tool, and an assert firing is definitely not  "cleanly and safely shut down "

but,
its obviously not clean code... after reading some of it i'm a little worried  

however,
i do believe the entire code base suffers from this unclean code satoshi left us with

oh well,
BUGCOIN is dead now.

Well banned isn't the right word my mistake. But Thailand are arresting people for using it so it is a law.
And I didn't see this on the news. It was mentioned on here by another member. So this is were I first heard of it. And I was also in a questionable sense when I heard of this.

Are you referring to any recent news in particular, or just communicating a pure wish?  hahahahaha

I'm not sure if I understand your post or your position about this whole question regarding the short to medium prognosis for bitcoin?

I personally believe that in the end, some variation of the core's vision is going to prevail, and surely I hope that it includes some kind of incorporation of segwit - but even if seg wit does not get incorporated in the coming years, bitcoin still is in a decent place in terms of storage of value and security and various kinds of ways to control your own wealth from capital controls and even some kinds of abilities to do quasi-anonymous transactions in a pretty secure way.

we have passed $1200 safely with high volume,

so whats next ?

new target ounce gold ? or beyond that?

https://btc.com/stats/pool/F2Pool

F2pool signaling for segwit again, but this guy is such a prick tease it's hard to take anything seriously any more.

Bitfinex can't withdraw FIAT whilst Chinesse exchanges can't withdraw BTC... Maybe they should merge before its too late. Love is in the air.

But everybody already knows bitcoin doesn't work the way salesmen like Antonopolous claim it does, so without further ado, you can stop watching Antonopolous propaganda and view the full one hour Richard Spencer Q&A at Auburn Univ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1JJA6UiEio

... and just sayin, the pumpers will sell on the news...

We should know bby now when to call it a dump or not. That was not a dump.
That was a sneeze

All the transactions show in bitcoin.info as Unconfirmed.  I have been raising the fees manually because my wallet was sending 0.0001 for all transactions.
In my latest transaction I sent 0.25 with 0.0005 (240 satoshi/byte) but when this gets processed it gets added to another 0.5 BTC and then the fee per byte drops to 96??

see the tx: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/44af690b488daae59c2ca4bd055a6dc29378e11e51853de4e0763e72f8dd3e3e

someone just ate a 1.5k wall on finex i believe?

Thanks again. I guess I'll have to read up on BIP39.

As long as I don't have to trust any hardware manufacturer and (or anyone else besides the Bitcoin network) and my coins are secure in the case of hardware loss, I'm all for it.

You're convinced me enough to buy one (or two) just to use as a landing place when I break one of my older multi-coin paper wallets to reassign the coins. That will give me a chance to experiment with worst-case scenarios after I've drained it of all but a few satoshis.

As you said, the cost of a Trezor is negligible compared to the coins it holds at today's prices.

Its called Margin Long.  even if you only use 1x margin (or less), your stash can be leveraged to lay more eggs, without having to sell any.  Of course, markets go both ways.  You want to bet correctly, or it works in reverse 

Ok guys, I have finally got my free CLAMS, so it was for real. Got 28 CLAMS for the six addresses I could find that were applicable. That's around 100€... Free money I love it

Btw, I used Just-Dice to do the claim as gentleman posted, after trying several times to sync the clam wallet to no avail.

Perhaps this is my tinfoil hat speaking but......aren't you worried about the "paper" trail you are submitting to this exchange of private key for CLAM? Much like when the Coca-Cola created this huge online photo album of people's faces in order to find their "doppelgangers," not for a huge facial recognition system instead.

At least half of us have no idea what's happening.

Let's do a peer to peer gold transaction. I'll pay you double spot for an ounce of gold on delivery. Let's see about those $0 transaction fees.

Here is my address. https://www.google.com/maps/@-43.1382064,147.2102165,17z

I don't understand how BTC/USD price affects ETH/USD price? When BTC/USD is crashing, ETH/BTC goes up. That I can understand somehow. But my mind gets boggled when I try to figure why then ETH/USD then goes up? Maybe I just need some sleep...

Or crack your knees with a hammer until you give them your private key

Now you can buy residency in Thailand for 5-10 years or longer. I'm willing to bet other countries in Asia start to follow suit.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/you-can-buy-elite-residency-in-thailand-for-60000-2017-4

A $5.00 wrench can defeat both the paper wallet in a vault and the Trezor. No hacking knowledge needed.

whose ad was that?

You're the one spreading misinformation.
It wasn't an economic majority, and they didn't agree to switch to jgarzik's btc1 fork.

The NYA was a Jihan/Ver bait 'n switch. That's why we're seeing the signatories of the NYA start to back away from it now.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Ok, so my account yefi got hacked 2017-08-19. I'm a little shocked at this as my p/w was a random 9 digit code with a special character. It was also unique to this site. Anyway, please ignore anything my lobotomised impostor now writes, thank you.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NYG8FXzttGBxeyTpvefkG9qVEQUFRacQo
ILKE74zlefd0JdEr8uhy4EK9XsbeVUuDxPHyoMzPlFl5fJV2k0pmeNU1O7o00kUXY/9t5H7jJh7rXYjwmIYQq0k=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Here is the unedited post where I posted that address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13422402;topicseen#msg13422402

I'm not sure how many airdrops are running out there, but these are confirmed running right now:

Stellar Lumens - LAST date 27th Aug
https://www.stellar.org/blog/bitcoin-claim-lumens-2/

Byteball - next round on 6th Sep
https://byteball.org/

Bitcore
https://bitcore.cc/

(And of course, the usual BitCH coins, if you've not already claimed them)

The miners that don't agree to this, would not be on SegWit2X. There is no private key for this address, but the redeem script has been published, so anyone can spend whatever is there.

This guy could be the winner again OMG

Cryptoqueen would be crazy ....Thats my girlfriend and her Bday 😊 ;-)

13 or 14 from what it looks like to be...

But nice try! Good luck next time! =))))   ... that guy with 10/10 made me scratch my head a bit 2-3 days ago when I was looking at the charts. But I was a fool not to take into account any or even the smallest slightest correction.

congratulation to us hodlers and to harrymmmm for predicting the new ATH

END list, good luck!

12/10 harrymmmm*      

ATH reached i think ..... send me an adress i you Will recieve btc earnings today

When you recieve please post a proove of payemt ..... thx

Congrats to harrymmmm, what a nice present for you... 0.5 BTC sounds sooo fat these days...

And many thx to micgoossens, really enjoyed the game, and don't worry about being hated, this often means you're doing something right...

Kraken ATH: 4315 EUR <-- Already broken! LOL!

THIS IS GENTLEMEN!

There actually are races, between something like 20-50 races. But its not about the color of the skin as you may think, but features. And the color of the skin is mostly about geography and exposure to the Sun for multiple generations. (millennia maybe)

Dark Matter doesn't exist. It's basically all filaments of hot, diffuse gases.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2149742-half-the-universes-missing-matter-has-just-been-finally-found/

why should dark matter be unaffected by this discovery?
dark matter is what scientist called missing/undetected matter. the saw the gravitation effects of missing/undetected matter, but they did not see matter itself. so they called it dark matter.
now this mystery is solved, there is no dark matter anymore. as far as I understood.

goat is canny ... he bought the lambo, new, and then sold it on when btc had tanked ... pretty sure he would have got back in near the lows.

What the heck is BCH-ABC?

Silly me.

And BCC is?

What'd I tell you guys? That was the last ATH bitcoin will ever see. People are finally waking up to how much of a failure this project is. Here, if bitcoin gets over GDAX ATH of $11,485, I'll give the the first person to quote me here the last of my bitcoin, which is 0.1 BTC.

^^ Have I missed the origin of a new meme?