hy everybody,
am i interpreting something wrong - there are way more bids than asks at the moment but the price isnt going up, why´s that?

whole order book just fake/temporary bids?

maybe i should, but as long as you dont give me a reason, a simple ignore would do

96.21

nice reading - follow the link:

ip; is domain fixed? thread/link?

Which lawsuit? You mean that?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57582688-93/bitcoin-exchange-partnership-dissolves-with-lawsuit/

mtgox api sums up bids and asks of same value, right?
is there a way to know how many orders a price in the wall consists of?

hey reptikia,  i am in the asset reallocation bussiness,  need help?  btw i predict massive colume increase,  as wall thread is interesting again

replikia,  pm me,  otherwise i cant help you,  cause youre on my ignore list

in europe "getting registered" is not easy, see
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2007:319:0001:01:EN:HTML

yeah, buy time

rigor mortis

q question, is there already a definition for a "tick" for bitcoin? 0.01?

what is it with those dwolla, okpay and so on, why do u.s. citizen need such enterprises?
dont you have wire transfer as in europe: you give your bank a account number, the sum to transfer and 1day to 10 days after its done. the whole thing works with webinterfaces of the banks too. why take a third party for that???

yes, that made my sell order @129,495 go through

yes, i´m speculating on a looong deeep dip, as no new money comes in and old ones selling out because of low volume

yeah, why dont YOU show us the evidence

would be interesting to know the figures of bitfinex bets, but anyway - options work with 2 parties, so if the volume is low on gox it will be low on bitfinex too i bet.

the liberty reserve thing is majorly blown up by the us govx. they state that $6 billions where "washed" over lr, ... i suspect that sum is just the total business sum, because i doubt they are able to properly separate legitimate trades from "washing"-trades, besides that only a judge can tell in a verdict which sum was illegitimate. but it will make ordinary people stay away from anything resembling e-cash for a while- so low volume ahead.

i find the way the prosecutors present their case quite entertaining, just like if they would have won over evil. but looking at it from another perspective one could  almost just as well state that lr was a succesful implementation of hawalla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala)  in the digital domain, and so a super cool startup company working really well with cool guys on top, sort of sugarberg etc..

talking about hawalla, i hope bitcoin is "hawalla 2000"

and what if all thread poster would join for a hammer?
maybe mc hammer wanted to provoke this

one should be very cautious when people talk about professions they dont learned themselves.
in fact psychiatrists are the only ones entitled to prescribe drugs (in europe). wheter thats good or not is another question.
so if you are mentally sick in a way that a treatment requires drugs (as a supplement to othe kinds of treatmens or not) only psychiatrists could help (another question is if you believe in medicine - some people argue that pills dont help against mental illnesses). when thinking about psychiatrists as monsters or stuff, always think about the other side of the medal: psychologists telling people who need drugs, that they dont need drugs and that they would get better, just by the right kind of thinking..

btw imho i think there are no more noobs invested in btc at this time, only speculators like us, and those all want it to go up, so it will oscillate around that level the price has now, until enough noobs get reinvested or until enough decent btc-startups appear..or until some real bank offers trading.

btc price building process

i am not going into this further, just wanted to make my point, as this kind of fud led to a lot of suffering of people i know. may you believe what you want.

I have magical anti-powers. I short some bitcoins in the morning and price goes up to 105,x....

wow, that was nice, wall-cleaner in action

what i really dont like is that the volume bar on clark moody can go red, even if there is a 4000 btc buy, only when the last sell in the bar-time-period goes down

i bet there will be a significant sharp down today after wall-cleaner is finished. wallzilla is a coward (or maybe resident in a mental-home)

if you switch to euro on mtgox and sell btc, then you got eur, right? eur withdrawal is not suspended? so if us users convert to euros, the bank doesnt have the same work? i´d rather believe us withdrawals are suspended, cause they dont wanna take the risk to wire to the US..

i got it too, but i consider it bullshit.

to by into gold bubble settlement.. i dont know

is bitstamp first or mt.gox ?

yeah, that was fun. think the party is over for today, going into sideways, what ya mean?

btw found out that there is a bitfinex chart on bitcoinwisdom

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd

yesterday bitfinex detached from bitstamp price several times and went higher than bitstamp

i´m going long on every upward movement, going short for the corrections i did not try, as already getting in with the long positions is a pain in the ass with this low volume low frequency

why so complicated?

new buyers came into the market because of the recent press coverage, it rocketed a while. now that the newbies are done, the sells begin. next hype will come earlier than the last because this time no one was was frightened by a sharp drop this time.

so lets wait for some more news like "hot dog stand in washington accepts bitcoins" and the next rally begins

great

i got the feeling that the chinese guys have some kind of parallel-gamble running, they´re volume is just not dropping.
maybe they are sitting around a table in some market in beijing and playing cards with bitcoin instead of money or some domino or wth

again! bitfinex detached from bitstamp

bitstamp @ 430,61
bitfinex @ 439,65

unfortunately no way to arbitrage

bitfinex is offline (classic.bitfinex.com)

yeah, but that new interface.....my eyes puke

yeah great, 440 minus 1% = 435,6....

ever heard of holding whilst going long and short on margin?

because people are not told to buy bitcoins, google stock lives from bloody dumb consumers that do what they are told. in terms of bitcoin there is no big daddy telling dos-xx and bitcoin is what i consume..

i dont think so, if bitcoin market becomes mainstream the big player will take the lead and we will be happy if we make profits on the third digit after the comma, as in forex...

see i.e.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/08/06/chart-of-the-day-hft-edition/

nice gfx, but impossible to read, its merely guesing which color belongs to which exchange

how is it possible that a chinese exchange sucks up all the bitcoin market?

did the exchange-guys first register with gox, stamp and all the other exchanges to arbitrage to the chinese exchange?
and how could they know it would be such a tremendous success?

those chinese must make just market orders. such low volume and price rising, thats insane

without the asian girl, we will WITNESS A MAJOR DIP

GO AWAY GUY WITHOUT HAIR
BRING THE ASIAN GIRL

i will tonight. arbitrage is otherwise not possible, they only withdraw to a handful chinese banks

got a screenshot? dont go near that site

imho reactions on the other exchanges to price movements on the chinese exchange have decreased in the last days. i prepare for some correction.
But not tonite

whats the status:

bitfinex following slowly the chinese @ 606
chinese not knowing what they want @ 923.63
gox doing anything on its own @ 735.999
stamp dead @ 550
..

max price difference 185,99

we are in a paradoxon, moon is long past, entering BLACK HOLE

oh man, are the chinese going down or up after that slide?? cant decide wether going long or short...

@accord01

http://pho.to/49yqP

please go to a psych with your wife-related problems, or how donnie brasco would say it in ther german synchro:

piss on the wall dude

at least, mix some tasty details about your marriage to make the soup tastier

the live stream of the senate hearing will be here

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/

anyone another link (hd?)?

btw thats btcchina

here´s the withdrawal options, anyone know what teenpay is ??

does it bring my money to my european bank account?

whoa, the guy speaks of MINING BITCOINS

i dont believe in 10 year holding, i think the risk is great that bitcoin will be replaced by a more convenient cryptocurrency.
nowadays bitcoin is the big thing, cryptocurrency=bitcoin. maybe tomorrow cryptocurrency = whothefuckknowswhichcoin

today we can tell bitcoin rises
but we can also tell there are many alternatives already waiting
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

bitfinex is pretty much averaging out chinese trades, very slow bitfinex reactions on chinese price changes

FACK. where do you think the bottom will be?
700 ?

so its very calm on gox, china is awake, europe is awake, usa starting the day, any explanation for the boredom?

i am waiting for the +-20 USD crazyness on gox from yesterday after midnight

@ btcchina you have to give a valid phone number (sms verification code) and enter a passport number, just took by coins out of that shit

i think so too, but on the other hand, they want a passport code entered and i dont think they have the means to check if its ok, so one could enter any passport id, ie an idea that follows the scheme of passport - id´s from  a certain country.

i wonder if chinese authorities check those id´s entered at btcchina upon arrival at a chinese border..

is btcchina down?

that wallstreet article is bullshit

no, cause it says "a ceo from a fund of bitcoins" bla bla, anything anybody from a fund says is bullshit (except maybe mr. warren buffet)..

nice!!

what is "mixing" transfering coins from one account to another over and over again? maye its people trying to "wash" some stolen coins before they put them into an exchange; awaiting kyc regulations, now that btcchina has fucked with the clients. might as well be arbitrage, maybe some customers managed to open accounts at the same bank as a exchange and such money transfer is as fast as btc transfer for them.

sorry, but i dont get it. i cant read that blockchain stuff, always wondered why there are adresses displayed that have nothing to do with the transaction, plus the commas and dots in the number make me go nuts

maybe try this thread, guys from bitfinex answer sometimes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.0;topicseen

daytraders, whats your actual timeframe you speculate on? 2h?

thats elaborated, i only do quick in and out movements, but i have a hard time getting my orders executed, so the market moves away and 20 min later i am still sitting and waiting..

another question or maybe more a poll:
do you rather speculate according to the short term trend or do you rather bet on the next trend ?
(i.e. now m1 it should go down but is rather pointing upwards; over all its sideways, so going long or short is merely guessing i think. as i am not guessing at the moment i am waiting for a longer up/down movement)

me too, i am always trying to buy very close @ the actual highest bid, but with low volume thats a pain

nice
i did buy some @ 550, 480, 460, 440
and will hold until 2015 or longer

since btcchina seemes to have detached i am observing gox, backchecking with btc-e and if bitstamp follows i place my orders on bitfinex. i dont really trust in btc-e to trade; i have some dismal experiences with metatrader+btc-e ..

r.i.p. fiat

i think gox is so successful because the fees for low volume trades are so high, it´s all about trades with high volume ripping off low-volume traders.

no!
i think at the moment the whole market is in hodl-position and going to hibernate. just some more hodlers and we will get crazy market actions, because of very thin order books.
first price will crash, then risk-oriented-hodlers will temporariliy get out of hibernation, which will leed to some peaks and bots will have big times but that will be just crazy action during hodl-hibernation.
until the next rally it will stay like this.
and i think the next rally is not very near, as we need many times more news than some months ago, because people were scared big time by the volatility in november/december. the new normal-folk-paradigma concerning bitcoin for now is: "but since china ban it´s dead, isnt it?"

we already see the bid-ask spread in the actual m3 chart of stamp, very bad sign imho

what do you think of
https://btc.sx/
?

is it true its run by banksters?

plz, could you explain that for a 5year old? thx

i think this guy took some pictures of something and made a nice hoax

no significant movement on btc-e, so our russian+bulgarian+cypriotic friends not impressed of that fud

?
https://btc.sx/
still i dont trust that thing

well, i thing for an exchange service it would be easier to use your inside knowledge to give you nice trading hints, so i dont really believe in that story - and if its true, how do they hide from the blockchain?

do i understand that right?:

you speculate on that btc-builder will exist longer than your gox speculation will run, so that you can get your btc out again and not be trapped in gox?

which altcoin isnt scrypt?

http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/
has eliminated the last piece of credibility.  

anyway, who is he? is he important to btc? i never had to deal with him, all i need is this forum, btc-wisdom and bitfinex!

i think that table is heavily "photoshoped". wheres the index?

or its accounts where all the .000000000x round-errors and other specialities went to..

i couldnt find my transactions in btc-transfer-report, found my id in mtgox_balances

this fund´s performance curve is essentially the bitcoin price. so they put up a fund that is doing nothing else than buying in and dont let the people out.. poor millionaires, thy should have invested in gox instead

whats the difference to a ponzi scheme, if only the oldest incestors can liquidate??