All posts made by whoreble in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 14654940 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
slipknot
That awesome Whitesnake cover band from Iowa that all the smart people love?
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Post 14673638 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
How do you guys store your coins in cold storage btw?
Electrum, paper wallets??
Just curious, thinking about using a different method.
ledgerwallet stiched in my pickachu's anus
Where do you keep the Pikachu? No wait, don't tell me
Pikachu not real; has no anus.
2015Bubble is real; has no anus. Or bitcoins.
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Post 14675326 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
i dont know if its the 3, but imo as soon as those 470 are broken we will reach 500 in no time. after that i dont see much resistance until 840$
And once 840 is broken, $10,000 is just moments away.
Of course, there's no volume, but hey...
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Post 14675438 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Have fun with your dollars, maybe they will rise in value as well.
How can you post on the internet but still can't learn what money is? You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
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Post 14675526 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Have fun with your dollars, maybe they will rise in value as well.
How can you post on the internet but still can't learn what money is? You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
Oops. Forex trading, I've been doing it wrong.
Forex
You can't even remember which account you're posting from, forget understanding money
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Post 14675578 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Have fun with your dollars, maybe they will rise in value as well.
How can you post on the internet but still can't learn what money is? You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
Oops. Forex trading, I've been doing it wrong.
Forex
You can't even remember which account you're posting from, forget understanding money
I've clearly got a lot to learn - I can't even understand your post
Which account should I have used?
Unless your name is Ted E. Bare, you clearly do
Re. Princess Di Beanies:
Wow, those Beanie investors were real visionaries!
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Post 14675640 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Have fun with your dollars, maybe they will rise in value as well.
How can you post on the internet but still can't learn what money is? You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
Oops. Forex trading, I've been doing it wrong.
Forex
You can't even remember which account you're posting from, forget understanding money
I've clearly got a lot to learn - I can't even understand your post
Which account should I have used?
Unless your name is Ted E. Bare, you clearly do
Ah. You think because you were replying to a specific person
on a public forum that only that person can reply to you?
So if, on a public forum, I told Jeffrey Dahmer that he was a murderer, you'd get all butthurt and reply "no I'm not!!!1"?
How far gone are you bro?
But I know you can't possibly be that nutty and still remember to breathe, so assuming you simply forgot to post with your sock
P.S. Yeah, just about now you're starting to grasp the sort of shit you got yourself into, huh?
This is the shame you'll never live down
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Post 14675739 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Ah. You think because you were replying to a specific person on a public forum that only that person can reply to you?
So, with forex people use money to buy other money. But that doesn't make a mockery of your post, because I'm not Ted E. Bare? I'm starting to learn, oh wise guru!
So if, on a public forum, I told Jeffrey Dahmer that he was a murderer, you'd get all butthurt and reply "no I'm not!!!1"?
How far gone are you bro?
You missed a bit when you were copying and pasting - I'm helpfully put it back for you! (It's the bit in bold, about how it's entirely possibly to invest in money, despite your professed belief. And honestly, this replying thing - public forums have always worked like this - I thought everyone knew. My bad.)
Lol, so that's where your confusion lies! here:
Investing and trading are two very different methods of attempting to profit in the financial markets. The goal of investing is to gradually build wealth over an extended period of time through the buying and holding of a portfolio of stocks, baskets of stocks, mutual funds, bonds and other investment instruments.
Always glad to educate
the great unwashed a fellow finance enthusiast
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Post 14676057 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Lol, so that's where your confusion lies! here:
Investing and trading are two very different methods of attempting to profit in the financial markets. The goal of investing is to gradually build wealth over an extended period of time through the buying and holding of a portfolio of stocks, baskets of stocks, mutual funds, bonds and other investment instruments.
Always glad to educate
the great unwashed a fellow finance enthusiast
Ah, you're choosing one definition of a term to suit your purpose. Very clever!
So, what you're saying is - all these people who think they've been investing in BTC, they've not? Or does that only apply if they buy on an exchange, where (I think we all accept?) it's a zero-sum game? Or does it only apply to fiat currencies? This finance stuff is confusing.
What I'm telling you is this:
Those who trade BTC are not investors, per definition. One can trade 100% worthless stock and make shitloads of money. This can't be done by investing in worthless stock. If you have used Forex to
invest in currencies then ya, u was doin' it wrong.
The more you know
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Post 14676148 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Your various assumptions are messed up...
yes, there is a lot of speculation in bitcoin.
yes, bitcoin is very volatile...
but it surely can be an investment (though probably dangerous, unless you are really young, to put too high a percentage of your assets into bitcoin)...
Technically you're right -- anything can be an investment. OTOH, when the word "investment" is used sans modifier, "not idiotic" is strongly implied.
Anyhow, the extent to which it is incorporated as an "investment" is gonna have various outcomes depending on various individual approaches and their application of it to their own situations.
Everything has "various outcomes depending on various individual approaches and their application of it to their own situations," yes.
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Post 14676248 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
What I'm telling you is this:
Those who trade BTC are not investors, per definition. One can trade 100% worthless stock and make shitloads of money. This can't be done by investing in worthless stock. If you have used Forex to
invest in currencies then ya, u was doin' it wrong.
The more you know
Well obviously, traders are traders. What I'm asking is - those people who
invested in BTC - they didn't?
Not sure how this is relevant, but I'll refresh your memory. Because I'm such a softy.
You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
So, at the risk of being overly explicit: Those who invested in BTC have invested in BTC. They made a mistake. They should have invested in Beanies, they would have been better off.
You, not being the intended recipient and apropos of nothing, chose to reply:
Oops. Forex trading, I've been doing it wrong.
...which, of course, was you forgetting to log into the correct account, since trading (what you did on Forex) has nothing whatsoever to do with investing.
And here we are.
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Post 14676439 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
What I'm telling you is this:
Those who trade BTC are not investors, per definition. One can trade 100% worthless stock and make shitloads of money. This can't be done by investing in worthless stock. If you have used Forex to
invest in currencies then ya, u was doin' it wrong.
The more you know
Well obviously, traders are traders. What I'm asking is - those people who
invested in BTC - they didn't?
Not sure how this is relevant, but I'll refresh your memory. Because I'm such a softy.
You invest *with* money, not *in* money.
So, at the risk of being overly explicit: Those who invested in BTC have invested in BTC. They made a mistake. They should have invested in Beanies, they would have been better off.
You, not being the intended recipient and apropos of nothing, chose to reply:
Oops. Forex trading, I've been doing it wrong.
...which, of course, was you forgetting to log into the correct account, since trading (what you did on Forex) has nothing whatsoever to do with investing.
And here we are.
Many of those people who invested in BTC believe it to be money. It's traded as one half of a currency pair (or what resembles a currency pair). If you're saying - you are saying - that money can not be invested in, then you're telling such people that they haven't done what they believe they've done.
I did indeed trade forex. I had a trading account, and I traded the local currency for many others. Usually with poor results - I'm not a trader, but at the time I hadn't realised that. But eventually I ended up with lots of USD and not too much local currency. The local currency was borrowed, at what was then stupidly low rates, so I stuck the USD in a Eurodollar account in my home country, where the interest rate was a good bit higher (less than I'd have got in the US, but more than I was paying on the loan). The USD in my investment portfolio is the interest I earned on my investment - plus the interest I've earned since.
Beyond that, we're back to your narrow definition of "invest" [1], and your belief that I can only be replying to you because I'm someone else. Mate, honestly, forums don't work the way you think. Say something at random, and 0, 1, or any number of people may reply to you. Try it!
[1] Assuming you're sticking to it:
Technically you're right -- anything can be an investment. OTOH, when the word "investment" is used sans modifier, "not idiotic" is strongly implied.
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Which is not to say you shouldn't drop the rest of the bullshit, you should. Because you would have done better with almost every actual investment option, including frickin' index funds.
TL;DR: Yes, you *were* doing it wrong. First because "with poor results - I'm not a trader," and later by thinking that money is an investment.
Sure, USD is nearly perfect money, but trust me -- an investment it is not
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Post 14676583 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Which is not to say you shouldn't drop the rest of the bullshit, you should. Because you would have done better with almost every actual investment option, including frickin' index funds.
TL;DR: Yes, you *were* doing it wrong. First because "with poor results - I'm not a trader," and later by thinking that money is an investment.
Sure, USD is nearly perfect money, but trust me -- an investment it is not
The local currency wasn't GBP, nor was it my home country's currency. (My home country at the time wasn't Britain, either, but that's not the point). Incredibly, my brief foray into the carry trade wasn't my only investment at that time but thank you for your investment advice - many years too late, mind, but interesting all the same. Beyond that we're back to your narrow definition of invest. Let me put it like this...
An investment management firm has a "fixed income" section. Besides derivatives and bonds, what else do you think they invest their clients money in? And how do you think they acquire it?
You frighten me. Here's what an index fund is:
An index fund is a type of mutual fund with a portfolio constructed to match or track the components of a market index, such as the Standard & Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500). An index mutual fund is said to provide broad market exposure, low operating expenses and low portfolio turnover.
So no, not "investing in money," if that's what you're thinking.
Re. "home country":
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Too many International Men of Mystery and Intrigue around these parts.
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Post 14676693 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Which is not to say you shouldn't drop the rest of the bullshit, you should. Because you would have done better with almost every actual investment option, including frickin' index funds.
TL;DR: Yes, you *were* doing it wrong. First because "with poor results - I'm not a trader," and later by thinking that money is an investment.
Sure, USD is nearly perfect money, but trust me -- an investment it is not
The local currency wasn't GBP, nor was it my home country's currency. (My home country at the time wasn't Britain, either, but that's not the point). Incredibly, my brief foray into the carry trade wasn't my only investment at that time but thank you for your investment advice - many years too late, mind, but interesting all the same. Beyond that we're back to your narrow definition of invest. Let me put it like this...
An investment management firm has a "fixed income" section. Besides derivatives and bonds, what else do you think they invest their clients money in? And how do you think they acquire it?
You frighten me. Here's what an index fund is:
An index fund is a type of mutual fund with a portfolio constructed to match or track the components of a market index, such as the Standard & Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500). An index mutual fund is said to provide broad market exposure, low operating expenses and low portfolio turnover.
So no, not "investing in money," if that's what you're thinking.
Re. "home country":
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Yes, very good, we all know what an index fund is. But what does that to do with the questions I asked you? Equities and fixed income are two very different things.
I'm not going to tell you what countries I've lived in. It's really not relevant, and frankly it's a little creepy that you'd even care. If you need to have a more concrete example, lets say I'm a Armenian who now lives in Belgium but used to live in China, and while there was posted to Djibouti. But honestly - none of this is relevant. I thought personalising it might help you understand. Perhaps I was wrong - I'm doing my best to accommodate your foibles, honest!
You're not going to tell me what your "home country" is because, like most humans, you wish to keep your lying to a minimum.
And because you're going to spin fairy tales about making sound Forex investments [lol!] which, implausible as they may be, can not be proven false sans specifics
That said, I can offer you multiple cases Beanie Babies investors who beat actual IRL index funds. Please do not misconstrue that as advice to invest in Beanies.
Please don't be offended if you find this disclaimer patronizing -- past experience has taught me that everything here needs to be spelled out.
Re. fixed income [securities]: where did that come from? what do those have to do with anything I said?
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Post 14676943 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
The local currency wasn't GBP, nor was it my home country's currency. (My home country at the time wasn't Britain, either, but that's not the point). Incredibly, my brief foray into the carry trade wasn't my only investment at that time but thank you for your investment advice - many years too late, mind, but interesting all the same. Beyond that we're back to your narrow definition of invest. Let me put it like this...
An investment management firm has a "fixed income" section. Besides derivatives and bonds, what else do you think they invest their clients money in? And how do you think they acquire it?
You frighten me. Here's what an index fund is:
An index fund is a type of mutual fund with a portfolio constructed to match or track the components of a market index, such as the Standard & Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500). An index mutual fund is said to provide broad market exposure, low operating expenses and low portfolio turnover.
So no, not "investing in money," if that's what you're thinking.
Re. "home country":
You're a Brit, so stop with the "local currency ... in my home country" Spy vs. Spy bullshit
Yes, very good, we all know what an index fund is.
But what does that to do with the questions I asked you? Equities and fixed income are two very different things.I'm not going to tell you what countries I've lived in. It's really not relevant, and frankly it's a little creepy that you'd even care. If you need to have a more concrete example, lets say I'm a Armenian who now lives in Belgium but used to live in China, and while there was posted to Djibouti. But honestly - none of this is relevant. I thought personalising it might help you understand. Perhaps I was wrong - I'm doing my best to accommodate your foibles, honest!
You're not going to tell me what your "home country" is because, like most humans, you wish to keep your lying to a minimum.
And because you're going to spin fairy tales about making sound Forex investments [lol!] which, implausible as they may be, can not be proven false sans specifics
That said, I can offer you multiple cases Beanie Babies investors who beat actual IRL index funds. Please do not misconstrue that as advice to invest in Beanies.
Please don't be offended if you find this disclaimer patronizing -- past experience has taught me that everything here needs to be spelled out.
My home country is Britain. You could probably work out "local currency" for yourself (but I repeat: it really isn't relevant).
That's a lie. I'm really a squirrel living in Basingstoke with a girl called Mary. But, that aside, it doesn't matter if it's true or false - sans specifics or no. Treat it as a hypothetical, or believe it - it really doesn't matter. It's a tangent, and if I'd been more accommodating to your quirks and idiosyncrasies I'd have anticipated you'd get confused by it and I'd not have complificated matters by raising it. Once again, I apologise.
So both your failed Forex trading career and the misguided Forex "investing" that followed are to be treated as hypotheticals, now that they've been shown to be rubbish? K.
So, back to the matter in hand. What else does that fixed income section invest in? And how do they acquire it? Third time I've asked, I'm beginning to think you're trying to avoid answering
I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make, but I'll bite. Fixed-income securities that instantly come to mind are government bonds. I have no idea of what governments invest in -- jackboots for their thugs, most likely. If you're suggesting that fixed income funds trade currencies, I'm sure many of them do. But invest in currencies? Lol, no, never.
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Post 14677377 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make, but I'll bite. Fixed-income securities that instantly come to mind are government bonds. I have no idea of what governments invest in -- jackboots for their thugs, most likely. If you're suggesting that fixed income funds trade currencies, I'm sure many of them do. But invest in currencies? Lol, no, never.
Well, I said apart from derivatives and bonds (I was trying to be helpful, honest), so I can't accept "government bonds" as an answer (I hope you'd realise that they're just a specific form of bond). No, I'm not suggesting that fixed income funds trade currencies (though obviously they will), I'm saying they hold currencies as an investment for their clients.
Can you point me in the right direction? I've tried to find evidence to support thiis calim, and came up with ...zilch.
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Investing Investopedia tells me of possible ways to "invest" in currencies. Please tell me which fits best what you're suggesting fixed rate funds do:
-Standard Trading Account (trading)
-ETF/ETN (trade currency without Forex account)
-CDs & Savings Accounts (money in the bank)
-Foreign Bond Funds (Not_your_own Government bonds)
-Multinational Corporations ("indirectly participate in the foreign currency markets through their ownership in companies that do significant business in foreign countries." Rube Goldberg's favorite, and "5 Ways To Invest In Currencies" sounds so much better that "4 Ways..."
Fixed income traditionally was investments for "widows and orphans" - low risk, cash and bonds, in a pre-derivative era. So that's BTC investors, widows and orphans now - you want to tell them their investment isn't an investment, or shall I?
Investments for "widows and orphans" sounds like some sort of a nasty bitcoiner thing where everyone gets raped and then the streets flow with tears and snot. If you're talking about IRL safe investments, "Good as government bonds" is proverbial
Part where LBGA tries to get catty
Doen's become you. Don't.
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Post 14682402 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Well, I said apart from derivatives and bonds (I was trying to be helpful, honest), so I can't accept "government bonds" as an answer (I hope you'd realise that they're just a specific form of bond). No, I'm not suggesting that fixed income funds trade currencies (though obviously they will), I'm saying they hold currencies as an investment for their clients.
[1] Can you point me in the right direction? I've tried to find evidence to support thiis calim, and came up with ...zilch.
[2]
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Investing Investopedia tells me of possible ways to "invest" in currencies. Please tell me which fits best what you're suggesting fixed rate funds do:
-Standard Trading Account (trading)
-ETF/ETN (trade currency without Forex account)
-CDs & Savings Accounts (money in the bank)
-Foreign Bond Funds (Not_your_own Government bonds)
-Multinational Corporations ("indirectly participate in the foreign currency markets through their ownership in companies that do significant business in foreign countries." Rube Goldberg's favorite, and "5 Ways To Invest In Currencies" sounds so much better that "4 Ways..."
[3]
Fixed income traditionally was investments for "widows and orphans" - low risk, cash and bonds, in a pre-derivative era. So that's BTC investors, widows and orphans now - you want to tell them their investment isn't an investment, or shall I?
Investments for "widows and orphans" sounds like some sort of a nasty bitcoiner thing where everyone gets raped and then the streets flow with tears and snot. If you're talking about IRL safe investments, "Good as government bonds" is proverbial
[4]
Part where LBGA tries to get catty
Doen's become you. Don't.
[1] Links in previous post, surprised you "missed" them. Here's
Schwab again:
Schwab and Schwab Bank offer a wide selection of cash and cash investment solutions.
Barclays offer the same. A quick google for "cash" and "invest" should open up a whole new world to you. Hell, while you're at it, google "traditional investments". (They're all - IMO - poor investments, before you get your panties knotted, but see [3] below).
[2] You probably want to avoid Investopedia, it's a resource for lay-people with minimal experience. Entry-level stuff. You should also probably realise that I wasn't talking about fixed income
funds. (Go back, re-read my posts - I'll wait).
[3] We're not talking about safe investments, good investments or bad investments. Remember - we're talking about your belief that "you invest with money, not in money". Your hobbies are not relevant here.
[4] Tell me what will and won't result in your butt being hurted, and I'll do my best to accommodate.
[1] This is what Schwab is offering (from your link, point by point):
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Cash pending investment is available to invest immediately without risk of delay in having to transfer money or liquidate a current position to settle trades.
The Schwab One® Interest feature allows you to earn interest on your
uninvested cash.
(self-explanatory; not even claiming to be an investment)
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Everyday cash and cash investments are for day-to-day or monthly recurring expenses such as bills.
If you value FDIC insurance, a competitive yield, and a range of features such as bill pay, checkwriting, and debit cards, a Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking® account may be right for you. (FDIC insured, lets you write checks and use a debit card. pay bills. Sounds familiar? It should: It's called
a bank account)
-Longer-term cash can be part of your strategic asset allocation to reduce portfolio risk. It can also be used to meet known obligations, typically those coming due in more than a month.
(CDs from other banks, invest in Schwab Money Market Fund*, and Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Savings® -- a variable-rate bank account.
In short, nothing here is an investment in money. Nothing. Those banksters fooled you without even trying.
[2] I don't want to avoid Investopedia because, like yourself, I'm the furthest thing from an investment professional. The only difference between us is I know that I'm clueless while you ...well, you are the embodiment of the Dunning–Kruger effect.
That's what gets you into trouble, LBGTA
[3]You bet. You do ""invest with money, not in money." Or, rather, I do. You're still trying, so, I suppose, technically you are. Why split semantical asshairs and burst such beautiful delusions of purpose and competence, amirite?
[4]Way to ignore my excelent advice
*I can understand how the name could mislead a pro such as yourself. Perhaps counterintuitively, "money market fund" does not mean "a fund investing in money."
From the horse's mouth: "Schwab’s money market funds invest exclusively in dollar-denominated, high-quality, short-term instruments, including but not limited to securities issued by the federal government, corporations, municipalities, and banks".
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Post 14682594 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
From the horse's mouth: "Schwab’s money market funds invest exclusively in dollar-denominated, high-quality, short-term instruments, including but not limited to securities issued by the federal government, corporations, municipalities, and banks".
I don't think you will find many buyers for Jewish banker pyramid schemes on here.
You don't understand, friend cockroach (what else is new, amirite?)
I'm not offering you any of my shekels, just educating your bitcon comrade. LBGTA is the one who thinks investing in monyz is a thing. Crazy as a
bedbug another annoying household pest he is
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Post 14682721 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
...whorbling snipped...
Good good. And when you googled "traditional investments", what did you find? What did those other results from you googling "cash"+"invest" return?
(Incidentally, and this doesn't bother me but it does surprise me[1] - why do you make so many assumptions about things? I'm not bothering to challenge them because it really doesn't matter, and it'll just drag out a tedious process even more, but I'm genuinely curious. It's great you think I'm a pro, though.)
[1] It doesn't really.
I answered you, punctually, which is to say point-by-point, following the handy
Schwab link provided in your post.
Hopefully you didn't expected me to search Google for what you might or might not consider to be an "investment in money," and then thoroughly refute each one, 'coz that's a crazy big job -- your brain thinks up some wacky stuffs.
Regards.
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Post 14682811 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
...
still wasting day after day on here, imagining you contribute in anyway I see
You're mistaken, this is just light entertainment, a way to while away the time. Not here to teach deranged old dogs new tricks -- can't be done.
Tho neighborhood kids seem to enjoy the spectacle
... Smart investors will be doing this aggressively for anything below 1200 USD... It is all dirt cheap now!
The more you say it, the funnier it gets
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Post 14684070 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
^Meanwhile,
Ether Parties!Ethereum (ETH) $7.85 (
8.99% )
*please don't misconstrue this as investment advice. Bitcoin is still the most respectable, albeit somewhat outdated, cryptocurrency. In the cryptosphere, it's what our own investment pro and all-around intelligent person LBGTA would describe as a "widows and orphans fund"
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Post 14684672 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
^^^^^ porkchops pumping crypto... well I'll be...
Ether tho, gotta love it. How much more sporting/explicit could we expect Vitalik to be?
I mean, could've called it "Lingering mistake" I suppose, or "Big bunch of nothing," or "A lazy way to not face the glaring contradictions of intuitively acceptable, though otherwise wrong theories"... all very explicit, but just too long.
And (disclaimer: I know nothing of ETH) the supergoldbergian complexity! You know that Kickstarter disaster, the 400-dollar cooler with blenders and speakers and vacuum cleaner attachments that also sucks as a cooler? That!
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Post 14687659 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Sub-448, Horrible. Like watching my own children getting savaged
jk, wish I had video feed of the ongoing carnage. With dolby surround.
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Post 14689505 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
The way I see it is whenever bitcoin's not coiling (like a cobra getting ready to strike), it's uncoiling.
...like a nice limp cobra that already striked ...wait...
stroke? Like a cobra that just stroked out! ...wtf, is it
struck? A cobra that suffered a paralyzing stroke that also probably caused some serious brain damage.
TL;DR: Things are really looking up
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Post 14694323 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
The halving should be enough to rally around.
The halving provides
fundamental momentum.
*plausible backstory
Bitcoin needs more milestones to celebrate & rally around. My humble proposal:
May 17 International "Only 21 Million BTC Will Ever Be Mined!" day.
May 8 Bitmother's day <==this can be used as a template, take legacy holiday and add "Bit."
December 25
Satoshismas -- Our Savior's birthday.
April 30 Passover (Bitcpoin's not banned yet, huzzah! day)
What you think?
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Post 14734043 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
No matter how much proof Satoshi gives you guys, you'll still nitpick and find fault. No wonder he withdrew from this poisonous community.
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Post 14734269 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
No matter how much proof Satoshi gives you guys, you'll still nitpick and find fault. No wonder he withdrew from this poisonous community.
No, the proof is trivial, but has not been posted. Sign a message with the genesis block key and post it for us all to verify. Anything less is simply a scam.
There are many reasons he may not want to post proof for you to verify, not the least of which is you constantly moving the goal posts. He has provided proof to the most respected leaders of bitcoin:
<...> And even though Dr. Wright, inventor of Bitcoin, has conclusively proven he is the real Satoshi Nakomoto to Dr. Gavin Andresen, Chief Scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation AND to Mr. Jon Matonis, @jonmatonis, Founding Director at Bitcoin Foundation, CEO of Hushmail, Columnist at Forbes, Chief Forex Dealer at VISA, Economist, you stubbornly refuse to accept the truth?
Do you really expect the three most important people in Bitcoin (two of them Doctors) to drop the important projects they're working on to humor every Tom Dick and Harry with an ax to grind?
Get real.
How about showing some respect for Dr. Wright's privacy?
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Post 14734989 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
There are many reasons he may not want to post proof for you to verify, not the least of which is you constantly moving the goal posts.
Feel free to browse my extensive post history. I was posting here when Satoshi was still active. The goal posts have never moved. Sign a genesis block msg. Trivial for Satoshi to do and *everyone* can verify it.
He has provided proof to the most respected leaders of bitcoin:
They were tricked. Have you never seen a magician? Do not believe the "proof" from secret meetings.
How about showing some respect for Dr. Wright's privacy?
If he wants privacy he shouldn't claim to be Satoshi. Claiming to be Satoshi is inviting investigations. The real Satoshi is smarter than that. He keeps quiet and no one finds him.
So now Dr. Wright is a magician
That's some serious trust issues you got there.
look, if Dr. Wright pulled the wool over the eyes of both Dr. Gavin Andresen, Chief Scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation AND to Mr. Jon Matonis, @jonmatonis, Founding Director at Bitcoin Foundation, CEO of Hushmail, Columnist at Forbes, Chief Forex Dealer at VISA, Economist, but you insist that
you won't be fooled? Oh, that's rich.
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Post 14763301 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
I was hodling no matter what happened to the price, then Gavin announced Craig Wright had proved he is Satoshi. I panic dumped right at the bottom, then had to buy back after it became clear it was all bull. I'd never have panic dumped if it wasn't for all the Satoshi lies.
Seriously, what was your rationale for dumping?
Come on, if Satoshi really was Craig Wright it would have started a dump down to the pits of hell. You could see it starting, then stopping when people started to digest all the information and realise there was no proof.
So you panic-sold because you thought others would panic-sell, in a sense trying to move faster than them and profit. Makes sense as you say it, the only part that doesn't make sense is the lack of a fundamental reason to panic sell in the first place, other than herd behavior and market-trader addiction to news that "have to" move the price upwards or downwards.
He already got bitchslapped by the invisible hand, just let him be.
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Post 14772272 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
I don't know how others feel, but this been some of the best entertainment for me since Gox blew up.
Is adequate, can't complain.
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Post 14774294 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Dang! The great psychological resistance @460 broken
Bitcoin, you wilding!
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Post 14775074 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Now that the world knows the Satoshi coins are safely tucked away in the bosom of the Tulip Trust...
Are they?
Or aren't they?
You gotta buy into Wright's phoney story and lacking evidence if you are going to go with the seemingly made up Tulip Trust scenario.
Or do you?
Why are you having such a difficult time with this? You blind or something?
I know something's happening here, but I don't know what it is.
Do you, Mister Jones?
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Post 14775206 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Anyone else still think we are not mooning quite yet?.....
Yeah... a bit underchooched, a hair lean on enthusiasm for truly stoichiometric rocket blend.
Edit: The final piece of Satoshi puzzle click into place
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4i43gr/craig_wrights_sister_told_bitcoinbelle_that_he/
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Post 14775481 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
I hope you've learned something here, besides what it feels like to be crushed by a 75,000 horsepower iCEMAKER.
What's the safe word again?
@Fatman & BMB, too many TLAs, getting confused.
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Post 14775685 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
I think you're right in saying that he's a "wanna be scam artist" atm. Unintentionally, of course; but it doesn't happen often, so let's celebrate it.
Maybe it is just me, but I don't see how you could be either a scam artist or a "wanna be scam artist" "unintentionally"?
My understanding of the term (and how I was using the term) "scam artist" has intentionality built into it... otherwise the conduct does not rise to the level of "scam artist.".. .
Possible parsing error, so I added some text effects.
Repent while you still can, cryptocriminals!
Digital currency firm co-founder gets 20 years in U.S. prisonhttp://www.reuters.com/article/usa-cyber-libertyreserve-idUSL2N18326DMay 6 - The co-founder of Liberty Reserve, the operator of what had been a widely-used digital currency, was sentenced to 20 years in prison on Friday for conspiring to help cyber criminals launder hundreds of millions of dollars using its services.
Arthur Budovsky, 42, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Denise Cote in Manhattan, who said a substantial punishment was warranted for his role in running a money laundering operation that prosecutors said was of unprecedented scope.
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Post 14775862 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Monero (XMR) $0.840378 (
-7.67% )
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Post 14806401 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Onoes! 452
Down we go
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Post 14806414 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Any reason behind this dump?
Fundamentals.
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Post 14806436 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Sweet Jesus, support is gone, $447
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Post 14809972 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Yepp nothing serious so far.
Just a small set-back.
Looks like we can hold $450. In a few days maybe another attempt to brake the 3000CNY.
That's the spirit!
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Post 14810319 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Oh Adam. I'm disappoint
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Post 14812645 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Dang. Down we go
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Post 14813301 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
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Post 14813798 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
... the greatest medical/governmental frauds of the 20th century of HEP-C/HIV=AIDS(yes, i stand by it!!)/HPV cancer variants are hoaxes, logical fallacies, even by simple mathematical reasoning, and used only for controlling the populace by fear and selling overpriced pills...)
Not hoaxes, bro. Saurian Jews are responsible, and must be brought to justice! But we must act now, decisively, lest they sneak away!
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Post 14867948 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
thunder coming before lightning
on the internet, anything is possible.
Thunder thunder thunder!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Thunder_Cats_screen.jpg
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Post 14869840 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Such artificial pump of ETH and artificial dump of BTC can last only so long...
http://s32.postimg.org/wb03sfu51/Capture.gif How's it feel to be looking up at me cruise by in my luxurious Zeppelin, surrounded by fine hookers and blow, from your sinking Titanic?
How's that water, nice and warm? You happy now? Is this what you wanted?
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Post 14869955 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Wrong Zeppelin, about 20 years later, the one I'm not on. Count made a shitload of airships.
Your bones will be picked clean by that time. Flesh and even intestines digested and pooped out long long ago, by whatever it is that lives in the murky depths of your watery grave.
BRB, must hookers & blow
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Post 14870173 (copy this link) (by whoreble) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.50h):
Such artificial pump of ETH and artificial dump of BTC can last only so long...
http://s32.postimg.org/wb03sfu51/Capture.gif How's it feel to be looking up at me cruise by in my luxurious Zeppelin, surrounded by fine hookers and blow, from your sinking Titanic?
How's that water, nice and warm? You happy now? Is this what you wanted?
I am not denying that there is money that can be made, if you can time it right.
I just don't roll that way. Maybe I am just too risk averse because I have quite a bit of difficulties placing any actual monetary value in either ETH or DAO, beyond the mere speculation and a bunch of folks simultaneously jumping on such bandwagons? Maybe later, it may materialize into something more concrete in which I would feel more comfortable investing? For now, I prefer personally investing in BTClandia.
Look at you, paddling around those ice floes like a little seal! How long you gonna stay in there, your skin's getting all wrinkly from splashing around the water for so long! Why don't you come out? Oh, that's tight, you can't, I forgot!
You want I should throw you a nice warm blankie? No? Did you say "too late" or "too wet"? You got to speak up, my nubile hookers are frolicking too loud in the luxurious mahogany master suite, up here, in the palacious gondola of my fabulous Zeppelin.
