All posts made by Traxo in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 27396511 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.36h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 03, 2018, 03:00:57 AM
No one will be forced to use the lightning network. LN will reduced blockchain bloat and lower fees, even for the people who will never use it.
[...] Anonymint's number were WAY WAY higher than mine for how high fees can go, but I don't know if his were rational or not since I didn't really check them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1767014.msg18590930#msg18590930

Furthermore:
Quote from: https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/944064084562952192
Fellow Bitcoiners, are you ever going to realize how problematic these fees are getting?
Avg fees now over $40 per tx.
A year ago avg fee was $4.
A year prior, $0.40.
Growing faster than price, and exponentially with usage.
We just spent $4800 to move 15 BTC in one TX.



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3. Post 31578856 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.46h):

Quote from: JimboToronto on March 04, 2018, 06:44:28 PM

It's been almost a week since we've seen 4 digits. Are we finally over $10k for good?


Perhaps not for good yet, but only for few more weeks/months?



4. Post 31683912 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: starmman on March 06, 2018, 06:56:08 AM
BTC Dominance is up to 41.6% now - do you guys think it will hit 50%?

How about ~100%?



5. Post 31702296 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.47h):

Quote from: snakey on March 06, 2018, 12:53:54 PM
Bitcoin back to 8 USD. Many investors will lose again.




6. Post 35159022 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 20, 2018, 10:44:02 AM



Do it.



7. Post 35159928 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.53h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on April 20, 2018, 10:57:12 AM





8. Post 37563741 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.55h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 17, 2018, 09:16:46 AM

People who join Mensa are in the 95-105 range.
Just like how if someone opened something called "the big dick club", 3/4ths the people in it would have 4 inch dicks.


Hmm... I see how that could work for e.g. facebook groups where anyone can join.
However, Mensa has minimum IQ requirement for membership, and I think it's above 105.

Can you elaborate how can most members have less than minimum required IQ?



9. Post 38185531 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: realr0ach on May 17, 2018, 09:16:46 AM

People who join Mensa are in the 95-105 range.
Just like how if someone opened something called "the big dick club", 3/4ths the people in it would have 4 inch dicks.



@anonymint tells me in private chat that maybe you're referring to their divergent IQ score?
In that case, all could be admitted to Mensa with the requisite minimum convergent IQ of 130 yet still potentially have a divergent IQ below 106,
although this seems highly improbable especially if referring to a group of individuals.



@anonymint asks @r0ach to explain why surreptitious centralization is the antithesis of the next reserve currency?

@Torque, regarding bcash and altcoins in general, @anonymint asks you whether Exter's pyramid should be inverted or do derivatives wag the dog?



10. Post 38288192 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.56h):

Quote from: bluebits on May 22, 2018, 10:16:00 PM
Yes let's herd all the crackpot loop-de-doos into one action-packed thread.

I support diversity when it comes to Zionist conspiracies, Roach alone isn't a world I want to live in.

@anonymint read your reply and thinks it would be humorous to hear your physics explanation for the WTC7 collapse on 9/11 and for the subsequent outcome of 9/11 that caused widespread political support from Americans both for wars in the Middle East and AML controls (Patriot Act) which benefit Zionists and drive the demand for something like Bitcoin to become the next reserve currency as was explained in the detail in the prior linked comments.
He comments, "divergent thinking boys, not convergent myopia."

Also he asks you why did Satoshi put double-hashing everywhere except where it would have defeated ASICBOOST?
And why would Satoshi create a system which is a winner-take-all if that was not "his" intention?



11. Post 40903318 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.59h):

Quote from: realr0ach on June 25, 2018, 07:52:15 PM
they steal the r0ach forum hashtag, replace the word silver with TRON, and put it on a fake silver coin:



Fuck you!  In Tron we don't trust.  In physical silver we trust.

And on top of that, they remove vowels from my pseudonym, and make it their kleptocurrency abbreviation  Angry
Talking about plagiarism!




12. Post 42100801 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: gentlemand on July 13, 2018, 01:43:13 PM
anunymint got banned (again). It seems this was his 2nd acc. Dude was evading his ban lol. I wonder what was the reason for his 1st ban...

Was it plagiarism?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18861383#msg18861383

Excessive multi posting followed by excessive ban evasion in that case. Probably the same now.

Quote from: Traxo on July 13, 2018, 01:44:31 PM
What the fuck is wrong with forum..its a cesspit of shit posters and third world bounty whore posters. But when a glimmer of intelligent discussion comes from Anonymint aka Shelby Moore he gets deleted. I dont care what he did or who he pissed off. He is probably the last chance this forum holds any relevance into the next stage of crypto. Geeez wept. Whats wrong with you mods?


For the sake of the crypto community let the guy share discuss and argue his points. Ffs

Time to make a new forum don’t you think?

We need a forum that runs on a blockchain and nobody can delete anything. With decentralized moderation, meaning each of us separately can choose which mods we trust to filter content for each of us independent from each other.

It is ridiculous that we in crypto use a CORRUPT, PERMISSIONED, CENTRALIZED forum just like LN is intended to be.

It is so stupid to invest effort into what becomes a booty for CENTRALIZED, CORRUPT mods to steal.

Quote from: Traxo on July 13, 2018, 02:03:16 PM

It might be because of the lies and misinformation they were spreading.



CENTRALIZED determination of what is misinformation is the antithesis of our entire decentralized crypto movement.
Bitcointalk is no longer congruent with our movement.
It has become some echo chamber for selling CENTRALIZED, PERMISSIONED, BOOTY calls.


Quote from: aliashraf on July 13, 2018, 02:11:53 PM
Every post from @anunymint apparently was deleted. The thread is now very difficult to understand because a significant portion of the discussion is missing.
  Angry

Although @anunymint is somewhat harsh and used a bitter language, I've to acknowledge his contribution as being helpful.

Banning users is cruelty but removing their posts? It is slutter.

I got this pm from @mpremp (the supreme leader) regarding my posts being deleted because of quoting @anunymint  Shocked

Believe it? He has removed my posts because I've quoted @anunymint. I mean what is it? A devious recursive slutter algorithm, run by a bot?

I'm shocked and disappointed, bitcointalk is not the right place for such malicious behaviors, I'll stop posting in here for a while.



Quote from: Ix on July 13, 2018, 03:55:29 PM
Not sure why - I'd love to explain anything and repost my replies as needed.

Because btctalk management is petty beyond belief. Banning is one thing, but deleting posts is a whole other order of extremism reserved for the most petulant (and deleting RESPONSES!). Especially in thoughtful discussions.



13. Post 42101902 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: Paashaas on July 13, 2018, 02:29:09 PM
Lightning[booty] is growing fast Wink



FTFY.



14. Post 42148903 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 13, 2018, 06:00:43 PM
People with a load of money don’t tend to brag about it, they’d rather be discrete. Nobody of any real means wants others to know their personal wealth.

I’m pretty confident of that btw.

As if those with a lot of wealth can actually prevent anyone from finding out. Delusion much.


Quote from: mindrust on July 13, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
Still, your idea of decentralized forum will never work.

People will be abusing it to hell. What if CP lovers be the majority there? Hard/Centralized moderation is the only choice.

You seem as usual to not comprehend anything that Shelby designs and writes about.

The entire point is decentralized moderation. That means you can select mtwerp to be your moderator if you want and he can hard delete everything that you will ever see. But others can still find the content if they wish to choose a different filter of the blockchain data.

As for spam, that is simple. You spend something to post. Small enough that you don’t care, but large enough that spammers do care. And besides, if you are given the tokens to spend with for free, and those tokens are appreciating in value, then you are not spending anything. But the spammers will not be able to get those tokens for free, because they are not real people. But if you prefer to remain an anonymous little shit poster, then yeah you’ll need to buy some tokens. Might cost you 10 cents a month. Don’t know if you can afford that though?


Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 13, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
then you could figure out how much trolling you would allow before you took some actions and whether flaunting a previous ban would be good for your forum?  Oh, that's o.k.. just let banned accounts come back and do whatever the fuck they want.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You cannot understand anything Shelby designs or writes about. You continue to make technological and economics errors every time you reply to anything he has proposed or written about. IOW, Ignore (which is precisely what a decentralized moderation scheme enables).

Quote from: Elwar on July 13, 2018, 07:32:09 PM
I put him on ignore because he quoted and responded to our resident troll too much.

So you’d also cut your dick off because someone pointed at you and yelled rape? God misplaced the discernment module when he conceived you.


Quote from: bones261 on July 13, 2018, 07:29:07 PM
If someone wants to use cryptocurrency as a means to handle everyday expenses, then he recommends people just use one of the multitudes of altcoins available.

He tells me (via Crypto.cat) that your summary is accurate although lacking details such as the fact that Satoshi miners have no choice but to defend against some other miners using the booty to finance double-spend attacks. And Core is one of those altcoins you mention which he stated can be used as a checkbook, but which should be differentiated from hodling large value in which security is the paramount concern. And there is the post he made where he explained the technical reasons that all of LN (that remains when it fully centralizes as it must) can eventually be done on the real Bitcoin as well without the Core cruft added.


Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 13, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
Certainly, I take any posts and posters with a BIG ass grain of salt

Yup that is quite evident. Everything goes in one ear and flies out the other, nothing stuck inside to be worse for the wear and tear on actual thinking.

Quote from: Anon136 on July 14, 2018, 01:29:03 AM
(I'm still not convinced there is except to those who are exceptionally paranoid[not airheads like most of us in this thread])

FTFY.

IOW, the SegWit booty donations are not a low probability outcome. More like virtually guaranteed. We just have to wait for the booty to grow into the millions of BTC.

Quote from: yefi on July 13, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
This is a good case of how those with lower IQs are unable to differentiate their peers with higher scores. Hence why every tenth person is "a genius" according to the general public.


Well Shelby admitted that. How would you define genius?

Your statement implies a claim that your IQ is high, but your analysis of the future of the US stock market lacks insight into the coming dollar short vortex which Shelby has written about.

What is the virtue of genius if you lack the resolve to feed your brain with all available data? What is the virtue of genius if you waste it in the W.O. thread of airheads.

And what “good case” have you proven? Data? Or did you just pull that out of your pompous, self-important asshole?

Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:11:03 PM
I understand his desire not to want to rewrite the same arguments over and over again but couldn't he avoid invoking the ire of the mods by simply making a nice blog and linking to the relevant articles?  

WTF? So you get to discuss and he has to relegate himself to non-interactive communication because why? Because airheads prefer a forum that is an echo chamber. No the problem is that Shelby needs to go to a forum of his peers that does not exist. His peers being those “non-geniuses” who dig deep into technology. As he has been doing with @keean:

https://github.com/keean/zenscript/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc

Two peas in a pod over there. And most of you will not understand any of it.


Quote from: billyjoeallen on July 13, 2018, 05:40:36 AM
I never suspected there would be a transaction capacity issue. Then I came to the conclusion that it was a governance issue and the blocksize thing was just a symptom.

And you continue to make mistakes in your analysis, because you do not understand economics.
I would tell you to read @anunymint’s posts because he recently explained everything, but all the effort is nuked.
So relax, mtwerp protected your blissful ignorance and high IQ genius echo chamber.





15. Post 42168139 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruption



Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 14, 2018, 10:24:21 AM
EOS raised more than a billion

Ever heard of the concept of buying the ICO from yourself so the issuer surreptitiously controls 80+% of the token supply?

Quote from: bitserve on July 14, 2018, 11:10:21 AM
Clearly flawed "design". Most annoying spammers would be perfectly able (and happy) to spend way more on posting than "legit" users. That's a FACT (See spam signature campaigns for reference).

Moderators of your own individual choosing who flag spam as not visible to you is not any more costly than bitcointalk.org having moderators who do the same thing.
The amount of spam that has to be filtered would be less due to it not being entirely free to post.
Remember the decentralized ledger only has to store a hash, not the entire content. Those who are serving the content may refuse to keep copies of spam which no one else ever pays to retrieve.
Are you presuming the moderators here are paid? By whom? So if they are profiting, then are they impartial and objective?

Where is that genius IQ that I was told exists here?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
Oh?  So you are going to pick up the Shelby (anunymint) slack to inform us about something of substance?  Or you just want to defend a troll?  Aka banned person?  By the way, if you have arguments that are really technical in nature, then you might want to present them in another thread.. If you want to spread some unsubstantiated and confusing claims like anunymint was presenting, then maybe you will find yourself in a similar fate, as him?

You’re an expert troll. Kudos.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
Did you analyze my 12k + posts to find them unworthy?

The pattern was evident after only a dozen or so.


Quote from: vapourminer on July 14, 2018, 11:16:21 AM
ooooh another list! can i be on it too. huh huh please please Grin

Echo chambers need lists to keep everything tightly contained (anal-ized)



Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 14, 2018, 11:41:10 AM
It’s likely anunymit on another ALT any way.
Quote from: mindrust on July 14, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
Theymos he is here  

Refuted.


Quote from: Anon136 on July 14, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
Somehow all of the rest of us manage to avoid copying and pasting our same long winded arguments multiple times...
Yeah right none of the 20859 pages of this thread are redundant.

Quote from: yefi on July 14, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
Actually, the exclusion of data is vital to the formation of intelligence.

Shelby also thought so in 2013. But you did not address my challenge to you. Where is the evidence for your “good case” claim? You were implying that Shelby is not suitably equipped to do genius level work. Are you sure?

Quote from: yefi on July 14, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
The savant Kim Peek, who was portrayed by Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man, showed us what happens when the mind is unfiltered: you end up reading telephone directories

Could it be that what you perceive to be noise from Shelby is actually information which you are unable or unwilling to follow because of either your lack of IQ or more likely because of your preconditions, confirmation biases, and the maximum division-of-labor requiring effort to keep up with a domain expert?

Quote from: Hueristic on July 14, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
Anyone that uses that term gets Auto Ignored now.
Quote from: Traxo on July 14, 2018, 10:18:33 AM
So you’d also cut your dick off because someone pointed at you and yelled rape? God misplaced the discernment module when he conceived you.


Quote from: Hueristic on July 14, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
Somehow all of the rest of us manage to avoid copying and pasting our same long winded arguments multiple times... How do we ever survive it... Correct me if I am wrong but that is what got him banned right?
I think it was because he refused to combine posts and that is against the TOS. He was warned many times but being Shelby he feels he does not need to follow the rules and is above them. He then made a game of creating alts to avoid the banning. I believe all he has to do is apologize take his temp banning and then follow the rules to get reinstated.

Basically he has not been doing any of these things for a year or more:

https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/non-decentralized-forums-are-clusterfucks-of-corruption

I challenge you to go into the archives of what @mprep deleted and find one instance where he posted two consecutive posts in any thread. There is not one case you can find.



16. Post 42180120 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 08:12:52 PM
or they are talking a bunch of gibble-dee-gook nonsense.  

Seriously, how can you discern what is “gibble-dee-gook nonsense” when you don’t understand technological discussions because you’re not a domain expert in that field? Do you seriously expect that a domain expert can explain to a 5 year old the intricacies of Bitcoin’s Nash equilibrium and Schelling points along with the technological nuances intertwined therein. Ostensibly you just believe everything Core tells you as gospel. Do you also believe everything every expert tells you? Did you believe the lie of the climate scientists when they said that man caused global warming. Did you believe NIST when they said that WTC7 collapsed due to a model which has been hence proven to be implausible?

What if you’re wrong and everybody who followed your advice to ignore Shelby loses all their real Bitcoins? Are you going to apologize? Or run away forsaking your anonymous online identity? Shelby is not anonymous. You are.



17. Post 42182684 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
Oh?  So you are going to pick up the Shelby (anunymint) slack to inform us about something of substance?  Or you just want to defend a troll?  Aka banned person?  By the way, if you have arguments that are really technical in nature, then you might want to present them in another thread.. If you want to spread some unsubstantiated and confusing claims like anunymint was presenting, then maybe you will find yourself in a similar fate, as him?

You’re an expert troll. Kudos.
Your repetitively asserting such is not going to make it true
Your repetitive pattern of eating the “feeding the troll” troll bait is making it true.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
and how much credibility do you have, actually
Appeal to authority eh. And you how much credibility do you have?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
And, your ongoing failure and refusal to attempt to provide any kind of substance rather than personal attacks and status assertions, seems to demonstrate that you have no real intention to provide meaningful substance in your posts.
You talk about yourself when you think you are talking about others. It is freakin’ hilarious.

The substance was provided. You have so many excuses as to why you don’t have time to read it, can’t comprehend it, or how it wasn’t written especially tailored for your comprehension.

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 14, 2018, 09:31:02 PM


Contemplating[BTFD and preparing to sell].

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 14, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
We can make a deal.  Instead of ranting about how no one respects your authority, how about you tell us something important, interesting or at least entertaining.  We will then respect you in the morning.
@anunymint provided it already.


Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on July 14, 2018, 09:44:37 PM

Cats think animals that primarily sense movement can’t see them. They (small cats as pictured) are not interested in whether humans can see them. You’re not food.


Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:48:44 PM
I've been in this space for nearly 5 years,  
So has @anunymint. And he has been a programmer for 40 years. You?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:48:44 PM
Did you believe NIST when they said that WTC7 collapsed due to a model which has been hence proven to be implausible?
Again, we are deviating off topic, and this is an example in which there is evidence both ways... and we need not get into details of off-topicness in order to prove the extent to which we may or may not have developed sufficient critical thinking skills, right?

Lol. No there is no evidence at all for the government’s story. Once again you do not study the details.


Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:48:44 PM
Here you go.. mischaracterizing my assertion as giving advice to "ignore Shelby"... People can do whatever the fuck they want.  Whatever, my comments were to Shelby or to you stand on their own.
Good you’ve come clean on that. I could certainly get the impression that you were trying to form an echo chamber and groupthink by slapping each other on the back for writing derogatory comments about Shelby’s attempt to help hodlers not lose their real Bitcoin.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:48:44 PM
Do you recall our stupid ass previous troll, Stolfi, who presented himself and his arguments in this thread for a few years, and he was proclaiming to be a neutral professor.. and who gives a ratt's ass if he really was a professor, because his ideas were wrong, trollish and misleading.
You were around this forum for 5 years and you do not even know that Shelby was refuting Stolfi both here and at Redditard. You don’t get out much from this echo chamber do you?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 09:48:44 PM
your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy … your butt buddy
Highly intellectual comments. Ty.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 14, 2018, 10:14:32 PM
figure out a way to present and tailor their ideas to such audience(s) to the extent that they believe their presentation serves their purpose(s)
Indeed. That is why @anunymint did not try to make the argument strongly here. That would be futile. He obviously did not present the warning to help you. You are beyond help. He obviously presented the information for other reasons. And I doubt you can figure out what those reasons are.



18. Post 42372107 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.01h):

Quote from: Anon136 on July 17, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
Find me a vageta meme that communicates the idea "it's under 9000 but still really impressive" and I'll be impressed.




19. Post 47618267 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Speculatoross on November 05, 2018, 03:34:52 PM
3.wear a hat

Turn it off.
It is ~time for men without hats.



20. Post 47655945 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.11h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on November 05, 2018, 04:50:29 PM


Oh hi.
Qualifying for round two.



21. Post 49083713 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.24h):

Quote from: realr0ach on January 05, 2019, 02:33:02 PM
you can tell bitcoin is some type of delusional cult.  People worshipping the gnostic, false god anti-christ, (((Satoshi Nakamoto))), who has delivered to the world the perfect centralized govt tracking and control system of enslavement.



https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1081541185921941509




22. Post 51497070 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.51h):

Relaying from blogger.  

Quote from: Shelby
Note originally written June 16

Weekly resistance is around 9600, above that not much until 11k.
Though i personally believe 10k will be a big psycological hurdle.

5 digits zone, 50+% from ath etc pp.

I really wouldn’t mind going sideways for a significant period now. I’m a bit uncomfortable with massive increases in price over a short time because it usually ends up ending badly.

Consolidation & low volatility for a few months now would be most welcome imo.



This will happen! But when?

http://charts.woobull.com/bitcoin-nvt-signal/


Edit: dick knows him! He himself:
Build theories on:
History Repeat?
Technical analysis of a newborn product?
It's all shit

In one of the possible scenarios I have speculated about based on fractal patterns (and corroborated with the stock-to-flows model), there would be a re-acceleration analogous to the nascent period before 2012 when the NVT signal was orders-of-magnitude higher.

Essentially the higher NVT signal indicates a smaller liquid float and/or more BTC activity offchain, which in prior bubbles probably meant activity on exchanges. That was the case during the said nascent period when there was no reason to transact in BTC other than buying a pizza for BTC10000. And lately we have numerous new stablecoins on exchanges (for pumping the price before Craig’s claimed plan to attack at the halving), Bakkt, and Lightning Networks all offchain.

So the point is the NVT could potentially go much higher before any significant decline.

We could be possibly see a significant spike BEFORE the halving with a collapse in the Core altcoin price to ~$775 at the halving and with Satoshi’s original Bitcoin (not BSV nor BCH) skyrocketing towards $1 million before ~2028. I have speculated that in such a scenario, the price could launch up to possibly $78k quite abruptly possibly even before the halving. Or perhaps only up to between $10k and $18k.

(click links for charts)







23. Post 51584122 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

From the author

Quote from: Shelby
Not unless you control the government.

Have you ever heard of In-Q-Tel and its relationship to Fedbook.

How much kompromat do you think Fuckbook (or moreover the Five Eyes) has on every politician?

Connect the dots folks.



24. Post 51585873 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.52h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 24, 2019, 01:55:44 PM
Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).




25. Post 51627410 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on June 27, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
Today I had a class (I teach electronics as a side activity to my main job). We were talking about digital stuff, gates, etc. One thing led to another and we ended up talking about Bitcoin. I felt like Andreas Antonopoulos on stage...

Some statistics:

-- Most students hadn't even heard about Bitcoin, and those few who had were all males, no females knew anything about it. However, the females were very interested, especially when they realised it can be very profitable.

Everyone and their mother's mother heard about bitcoin by now, so this is curious.
"heard about" or "know about"?
Given that it was electronics class, I suppose these guys were not Amish?  
How old were they anyway, and where did you find them?

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on June 27, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
-- Most students hadn't even heard about Bitcoin

How many? Your estimate if you can recall?


Quote from: AlcoHoDL on June 27, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
-- The few students that knew about it were mostly misinformed about what it is and how it works.

-- The entire class (about 30 students) was ecstatic. They really wanted to know and understand it. We skipped all breaks, they wanted to stay in the classroom and learn about it.

-- Many of them wanted to buy. Many downloaded wallets on their phones. Some purchased online versions of Andreas Antonopoulos' book.

So you explained to them how bitcoin is not a scam or a pyramid scheme, but can be profitable? What did you tell them then?  
Which part did they like so much that they decided to buy a book about it?

Please clarify.



26. Post 51629260 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 27, 2019, 09:34:53 PM
the essence of the reality of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of people do not really know bitcoin beyond having had heard the name, so anyone making suggestions, including Traxo, that everyone knows about bitcoin is engaging in a kind of exaggeration that is not even close to our actual facts on the ground situation.

Do not put words in my mouth which I never spoke.  

I actually specifically said "heard about" it - as in heard the term "bitcoin".

Quote from: Traxo on June 27, 2019, 06:57:02 PM
Everyone heard about bitcoin by now.
"heard about" or "know about"?

I haven't met anyone since 2017 who hasn't heard about something called "bitcoin".
And mostly they know it's some type of a currency.



27. Post 51629324 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: dyask on June 27, 2019, 10:21:36 PM
In Japan at least, there have been plenty of front page news stories about Bitcoin.   I bet almost no one here knows about Enron.  

I never mentioned Enron, r0ach did.
In fact, he could said "silver" there, instead of "Enron", lol.



28. Post 51629625 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 27, 2019, 10:46:12 PM
the essence of the reality of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of people do not really know bitcoin beyond having had heard the name, so anyone making suggestions, including Traxo, that everyone knows about bitcoin is engaging in a kind of exaggeration that is not even close to our actual facts on the ground situation.

Do not put words in my mouth which I never spoke.  

I actually specifically said "heard about" it - as in heard the term "bitcoin".


My point still stands, and you are bat shit crazy if you actually believe that people know about bitcoin... which is the main relevant point.. 

Again, stop lying. I did not say that.


Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 27, 2019, 10:46:12 PM
why the fuck else talk about it... you are merely trying to suggest that adoption is widespread, and it is not.. that is the relevant point.

.. so who cares whatever the fuck you actually said because your implications are clear, you are leaving a kind of implication that many people know about bitcoin and they do not.... so don't be getting conveniently caught in technical details about what you said when it is sufficiently clear that you are spouting out inaccuracies.. because the essence of what you are saying seems to be a purposefully misleading statement because it suggest inaccurate facts about adoption and/or opportunities for adoption, which is surely not even close to the case.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then we could say same about this quote: 

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on June 27, 2019, 09:38:55 PM
Pretty well everyone I know has heard of bitcoin.

But clearly we both made distinctions between "heard about" and "know about". 

I specifically wanted him to clarify because it was very odd to me that majority of electronics class students had not "heard" about bitcoin, when in fact everyone around me has indeed heard about it (and no, I don't imply they refused to buy it or whatever because they thought it's a scam). 

I tend to agree that many don't know about it (what it is).

That's all.





29. Post 51650434 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.53h):

Relaying bytes:

Quote from: Shelby

Accordingly, capex will have a longer profitable time horizon, leading to the above equation being even more dominated by opex -- which is in turn energy cost.

Which in turn is capex, e.g. solar panels run during the daytime to lower average cost per KWH. Solar panels are as low as $0.02 per KWH now and costs are dropping 20% for every doubling of production per Swanson’s Law.

Also you seem to not appreciate that the payback duration on the mining hardware is dominated by the hardware costs, not the electricity costs, especially for Ethash.

Thus @realr0ach doesn’t really have any holistic point. You seem to liter argumentation with irrelevant details because ostensibly you think being correct on every irrelevant detail is meaningful. That is the myopic mindset of a “nuts & bolts”, shirt-pocket-calculator engineer, but not the mindset for greatness and leadership. I prefer to attempt to extract the relevant from the irrelevant.




30. Post 51775973 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.55h):

Relaying words.


Quote from: shelby

I am pretty sure shitton of people will be unloading their stashes like there is no tomorrow when btc starts to go above $50k. Not many will be left to hodl a full piece when it hits $100k.


When BTC goes above $100k and hits $1m, those who sold from $50k will be very sorry unless they owned and dumped at least 20 btc.


In the SegWit donations taking scenario at the May 2020 halving, they may never ever get that opportunity. They’ll be fleeced before that price level is available. Whether Craig Wright (and his mining partners who already control some 3% of the network hashrate) carries out the plan to monopolize (i.e. buy all of for a year or more) the production of ASICs with the proceeds of the $100+ billion (and growing) SegWit “anyone can spend” UTXO booty remains to be seen. My popcorn is ready.



I still remember 10 years ago, when I went into the bank and made a 5 year deposit with 4.5% year interest. I lived happily through those 5 years taking my profit. Until I heard of Bitcoin. What will be the interest of my Bitcoin deposit in 5 years? Incredibly high, for sure. Therefore, the price of suffering one more  bear year is insignificant compared to the prize after that.

[…] I believe that when I got into bitcoin in late 2013, my plan was to attempt to stay in for at least 1 year, even though i felt that I did not know much about bitcoin, except to attempt to treat it like a long term capital gains tax[for the tax advantages] […]

I removed the superfluous word for ya.

So you admit that in the past you had blinders on, and you obviously have become very devoted to BTC because a 1% of net worth investment has appreciated to 99% of your net worth according to you in prior posts.

But you refuse to acknowledge that perhaps you have blinders on again, and refuse to even dig into my research which I argue clearly shows that Core Bitcoin is not Bitcoin.

It’s going to be hilarious that after all these years of appreciation, you lose it all because you were too proud to have a skeptical mind (skeptical of your own blinders).

Just saying.





All this talk of to the moon 2020 or 2021 is silly. We all know the real moon is in 2022. Or maybe 2023.

2022 seems to be the consensus. IMO that's a good indicator that we'll moon before or after 2022. Probably before, since most people also seem to be convinced that the BTC cycles are lengthening.

+1 (because I have no merits to give). Except if the SegWit taking scenario comes to fruition as soon as May 2020, that mooning above $100k may only come on obscure OTC markets for those who hodl legacy addresses.



I am so badly disillusioned by shitcoins I don’t think I am capable of taking any blockchain project seriously.  And that’s probably not a good thing, because if something genuinely good does come along I will probably just reject it out of hand.

Indeed, but look for an anonymously launched, volunteer development team, two-tiered coin, absolute anonymity, bona fide decentralized transaction volume scaling, and true ASIC resistance circa 2020 as an alternative to the Libra 666 choice… the second coming of Satoshi…



The BTC/alt charts generally look terrible to me from a technical angle. A lot are in no man's land, where they've broken long-term support. I'm not touching that until I see signs of utter capitulation (sea of -2x%) or BTC's rally getting long in the tooth.

Indeed ties in with my recent post (has it been posted?) arguing that we have a significant pullback over the next several months before an ATH (note another AYH may possibly arrive short-term before the posited pullback).



Lets find out. New poll time!

Difficult to know what constitutes the end of a bull? Was 2013 two bull runs or one? Well if two, I'll plump for H2 2019.

Yeah I wavered a bit on how to word it. I dunno

What if the peak ATH is at the halving and Core crashes to $775 after that? Did that qualify?





It's a bullshit scale.  There is no authoritarian left vs authoritarian right.  The classical scale is only a single X axis where the further right you go progressing towards smaller scales of govt, the closer you get to 'anarchy', while the further left you go, the closer you get to authoritarianism, totalitarianism, marxism, fascism, and everything else which are all in the same group since they all require large govt.  That is not to say 'anarchy' is actually a good thing, anarchy just means abdicating power to whatever random passerby wants to seize it to then rule over you.

You’re attempting to view the politics of individuals through the filter of big vs. small government, which is the correct filter from a non-WASP, true Christian perspective (c.f. also discussion with @Traxo in the comments of linked blog). Note there are not many non-WASP, true Christians in this world. The Bible says 144,000.

But psychology of individuals is not so one dimensional as your filter. The quadrants of that graphic depict the psychological basis for the reasons that individuals align left or right.

This is one of the examples where although reasonably smart (2 SD?), you lack 3+ SD sophistication and nuance in your thought processes.





Posted as an impartial messenger, which means don’t presume I agree with the choice of wording or even the points made. Nevertheless the forum benefits from hearing all sides of an argument.

Quote from: shelby
[…] And I expect BTC to move to at least a double-top of $20k (if not much higher) before or by the halving May 2020, because Craig Wright will need for the difficulty to be very high so he can drive the Core shitcoin fork chain to a near standstill if he craters the hashrate with the donations taking incentive. He might be bluffing though […]

[…] but I will explain that @Husain_Zabir’s A and B price levels are probably too low and his C bottom target is probably too high. Also the Rogue Wave could possibly top as high as $78k. The low (presumably BTC not $) volume on @HairyMaclairy’s chart seems to indicate this current move is not complete.

Yet let’s revisit @infofront’s stock-to-flows valuation chart hypothesis which was based on my speculation fractal modeling. I have added some black lines to his chart and also drawn in green the progression of the BTC price up to July. I have also extrapolated in green-to-blue a scenario hypothesis on the price from now to the May 2020 halving:



Also my annotated chart of the BTC price below indicates that this pullback has support at $10k, $8k, $6k and worst case $4k […]

However instead of the usual scenario after the halving, I expect a divergence between the Core BitcOn-job and the real “v0.1”, immutable Bitcoin (i.e. not BCH nor BSV). I expect Core shitcoins to crash to Martin Armstrong’s $775 prediction, whilst real Bitcoin will appreciate under the radar to $1+ million until it is eventually used to back Facebook’s Libra after the strong U.S. dollar vortex.

wtf? The forum certainly does not benefit from hearing such bullshit!

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1148330889627295745 [←note corrected link]
Quote
#bitcoin RSI crossed 70 hurdle!



Stars are aligning for a very interesting halving season

Indeed the halving is going to be a peak price for the Core shitcoin, not the start of higher and higher prices for that piece of shit.

Here is a good interactive, logarithmic chart for historical prices:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/vR2WQLMS-Plagiarism/

So thus we can expect a 40 – 50% decline now from the 66% of the ATH price (which is $13k) and 5 – 6 months sideways action after that until the vertical move to an ATH peak at the May 2020 halving. That peak price could be significantly higher than the minimum target of a double-top at $20k, such as high as 14X the $6250 level per @infofront’s annotations on PlanB’s chart above.

It’s very clear what is happening now. I have taken some profits.


https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1144614623988994048

If we enter the correct channel this will be epic.

The Core shitcoin has dropped below the thick dashed green line, which may now act as overhead resistance forever. Perhaps only the real Bitcoin will rise back above that thick line after the halving after the SegWit taking restoration of unforgeable costliness.






31. Post 51866372 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: realr0ach on July 18, 2019, 12:57:27 PM
Think I dislike Instagram even more than the Jews.  Jews are hideous so they have to work or steal (usually steal) what they get.  Instagram is full of millenial trash narcissists trying to get people to pay attention to them in order to try and scam money from people somehow.  They're like a bad facsimile of Jews in other words.  Once you've witnessed demonic criminal Jew scammers like Larry Summers, it just makes you want to backhand slap these millenial grifters in the face with their lame emulation.

Meh, I don't know... I think nobody is forcing you to use Instagram... 

What do you think, isn't it basically a free market and there is just demand for "trash narcissism"? 
Would you shut down Instagram if you had power to do so, and why?



32. Post 51876335 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: realr0ach on July 18, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
When you go outside and see women walking down the sidewalk, every single one has a cell phone in their hand looking at it no matter if they're jogging, walking the dog, anything. The meme is that male nerds use the internet the most, yet it's actually women that are the biggest internet zombies.  

Can confirm, went outside once.  

Also glued to phones even when they are with their own kids, if they have any.  
Seems like there is always some trend which sucks them in to waste their precious time, recent one being "FaceApp" apparently. Something like when you put baby in front of TV then they can't take their eyes off it. Ironically, they laugh at that infant behavior.

Quote from: realr0ach on July 18, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
Joseph Tantor-style overspecialization

Who/what is that?


Quote from: realr0ach on July 18, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
The internet highly contributes to globalization. Overspecialization leads to collapse back to the dark ages.  Regional redundancy is required for that not to happen, and for any economy to exist at all where 90% of people aren't eventually unemployed giving you insane civil unrest and collapse as well.  

Perhaps, but what do you propose then? It seems that nuking the Internet is not one of the scenarios about to play out.
What changes with that regard could have benefits on a country level, a firewall? National intranets? I presume you can't just shut down the whole Internet and not expect chaos.

Quote from: realr0ach on July 18, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
Then you have the social effects where things like Tinder alone would probably cause the collapse of civilization.  Female hypergamy is only limited by their roaming radius and things like Tinder give them infinite roaming radius. In the old days it wasn't as big of an issue because her only other option might be the 70 year old town blacksmith or something.  But now the woman believes her options are infinite and they use that as leverage where the second you stop bending over backwards to be their court jester entertainment and work mule servant, then they're taking off with 50% of your stuff anyway.  There is no reason for a man to invest in any woman in such a scenario, and thus things like MGTOW were born.

True, but it's not going away anytime soon, so better look for a workaround such as finding a local community which condemns Tinders and divorces then you increase your chances to not find yourself in such situations. Besides, who wants to be a MGTOW loser?





33. Post 51876721 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.56h):

Quote from: nutildah on July 19, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
Roach probably isn't 18 yet, so to him I say, life is long and don't worry. Once you go to college, you'll be exposed to women that are unironically interested in your misogynist viewpoints. They won't be the slightest bit attractive, but they're hoping that if you occasionally relent from your hatred of women just long enough to get to know them, you can both climb up the ladder from inceldom and femceldom together.

I think r0ach is over 40 (at least over 30) because he double-spaces (unless double-space is standard for example in US military or something, or he's just being a clever kid, lol), so no college for him. So better we respect our elders when they try to teach us.



34. Post 51990537 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.57h):

Quote from: realr0ach on July 29, 2019, 03:35:16 AM
This is interesting.

Indeed, and on-topic as well. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSt62K70o0E
[Milo Yiannopoulos tells lesbian she doesn't exist]

Perhaps skip to 2:18 if video seems too long.



35. Post 52680207 (copy this link) (by Traxo) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.04h):

Quote from: makrospex on October 07, 2019, 06:08:52 AM
How are these fucktards at Bitfinex not in jail yet when the entire planet knows?



Just because your search engine automatically fills in the same keywords that you have been typing in for the last 3+ years does not mean that there is any kind of significance behind such autofill.  

Are you retarded, roach? (that's a rhetorical question, so you don't really need to answer it)

I bet it's his search history.

Why guess? See for yourself. Takes even less time than writing your insightful post.