i know for a fact that XBTCE and BTC-E.com are affiliated together. you can find the link to XBTCE on the main site too. but the price difference is strange because i always though they are the same exchange on different platforms! (unless maybe it is coinmarketcap's update problem)

edit: more info: https://btc-e.com/news/229

i would love to hear the poster's opinion on this also but as far as my knowledge goes this chart is a big speculation based on the analysis of the market cycles.
you can read about these things more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle
and here: www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/111401.asp
but i generally i do not like any technical analysis with bitcoin but many of the are correct to some extent.

not from there but in the streets of India apart from rivers of poo, bitcoin price is 66600.0 (~$980 according to xe.com)

there are lots of people making money because of the existence of mining farms in China. from the owners of the farm and their employees to small electric companies who owe their survival to mining farms and their special contracts, and the hardware companies manufacturing mining equipment.

don't think for a second government can even touch such a huge financial operation with so many big people involved.

i somehow doubt it.
because official cryptocurrency must be centralized in full control of the government. the same way paper money (cash) is centralized and in full control of government. you don't see them ask a third party to print money for them!
in the same way they won't even allow anybody else to touch their official cryptocurrency but themselves, and the banks. that way they can control everything there is to control, hash rate, any change or update,...

how can bitcoin price drop down, and not only drop down small but drastically to 500 range only because of something that never existed and gets denied for existence!!!
that makes no sense.

i strongly disagree with calling bitcoin price rise a "pump" but i agree with price staying flat for a while probably 1 or 2 weeks but again i disagree with your drop size. there is no way price can go down $200 unless we see something horrible.

this week has been terrible, all the sideways movements makes bitcoin price a headache. and on top of that you never know when PBoC news is going to start up again and kick bitcoin in the nuts!

haha, funny picture.
everything is a matter of perspective! based on your previous comments i am sure you meant this as to be seen from left to right but the "car" seems to be heading down if you look at it from right to left

people who are so think in the skull who can not see the 256 and understand the difference with 1 are also so think in the skull to never invest more than fifty bucks in bitcoin so let them sell nothing is gonna change


to wall is reasonable in front of bitcoin when it is on the move it will remove mountains...

dude that's one of those incidents that happen once in a million years, it was awesome and good for anyone who could catch it.
i did but not at the very bottom.

another big drama is circling bitcoin like last year and they are using this to their own advantage. in fact that is how Ether rose to the moon the first big pump! and they (ether and others) are doing it again...

today was a good day
the price fall is always a good day. when i saw the drop i was anxious to buy and when i saw the ~750BTC buy walls being placed i knew where the bottom should be and started buying. haha

this morning i was wondering how many more times this process of "FUD, dump, more FUD, buy back cheap coins, rise" can be repeated and how smaller the swings are going to get!

just some food for thought.

the bear trap keeps getting more and more victims these days.
with the start of spring they should seriously wake up from their winter sleep and use their brains for once

because most people who are trading (playing at trading) are not level headed people. and you can always find "some thing" to mess with their heads and control their actions to your own advantage.

today it is fork and tomorrow it will be something new and next day another thing. learn to ride the waves

so how is everyone doing today
i just got home to my computer to see price is at $996.9 @finex already and it seems like the happy hour is over now.

i am sorry for those who sold a couple of hours ago!


and thank god for them. without them i don't know how i could get free coins.

news like this usually create a temporary hype and lead to price rise but that would be short term because this is not going to make new demand overnight, it can however lead to some long term more demand and higher price.

this topic has been the place for random arguments for a long time now. check the first pages, there you at least see some charts and some real analysis here and there but you never see any of it in these thousand last pages.

what do you think about this:
- bitfinex fiat withdrawals are disabled
- people fear Gox specially with everyone repeating it online
- so they cancel fiat withdrawal and buy up bitcoin on bitfinex (price goes up)
- they withdraw bitcoin to other places (mostly bitstamp) and dump there (price goes down there)
- they withdraw their fiat out of fear.

this is more buy pressure on bitfinex and more sell pressure on stamp.

people keep saying bitfinex is fake pump but i am going to say it is now officially bitstamp that is dumping. JayJuanGee said this yesterday and i was skeptical about bitstamp bearwhale(s) but i see it now.

even btc-e is above $1201 now but bearstamp is still pulling us down ($1187).
kraken is also $1197-1200

a bit silly to say but even in other currencies bitcoin is worth more
CAD is worth more (1607.38 CAD = $1210)
EUR is worth more (1122-1130 EUR = $1195.36-$1203.89)
converted using xe.com

altcoins are rising because they are getting pumped, and since there is a lot of profit in pumps, many people join in and make the pump bigger.
i don't see Doge rising though. bittrex shows it as 0.00% change in past 24 hours!

and bitcoin is not tanking it is still worth $1200ish, maybe sideways but not tank!

if i didn't already know about bitfinex's current situation, this rise would have been a great one. i mean $1318 $1326 now

but right now i don't know whether to be happy or anxious!

i wish there was a fast forward button to 6 months to see the $2000 without all the bullshit in the middle

the bearwhale pockets has a bottom too, it is not endless.
and after multiple days of dumping you either get bored or reach the end of your plans and need to start doing something different since now everybody sees the price difference between bitSTAMP and other places.

how many more times does the price have to rise up before some people start believing that bitcoin is still super cheap!
each time we have a rise ($300, $400, $600, $1000, $1500,... $2000,...) they say "i can't afford to buy bitcoin", "it is in a bubble", "i will wait to buy when it came down", "it will fall",... and then it goes up another $100 and they start repeating themselves.

so when is it going to change? at $10K!

the first time a lot of idiots thought ETF is going to be approved and saw moon in their dreams so they FOMO bought bitcoin. when it was rejected they became sleepless.

this time nothing has changed about bitcoin and its regulation nor its volatility so everyone knows it is not going to be approved. even if there are some leftover idiots dreaming of moon time i don't think their numbers are that great

so we can expect a much smaller dip!

in my opinion none of this still justifies investing in an ICO. if you want to invest then invest in an altcoin that already existed and have been listed on an exchange.
the information that can be gained from just looking at the charts is 1000 times better than going in ICO where you are completely blind to its future.

just reminded me of this, nothing else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDL2W0HcJw

i agree but you forgot one of the most important factor: reliability.
an altcoin which is congested easily and its blockchain fails is not reliable enough for any kind of usage.

you have $$$ in your pocket and someday a donkey kicks you in the head so you decide to invest in an ICO (joking of course).
your only option is to buy ETH. so you do, ETH price goes up. you pay for the ICO and become a bag holder.
those receiving 150 mil $ want to get $ which route do you think they will take:
1. ETH > BTC (1st ~0.2% trading fee) > US (2nd ~0.2% trading fee)
2. ETH > USD (1 ~0.2% trading fee)

so they sell it and get the free $$ in their pocket. ez pz

hmm!
maybe you need to check some charts. the 20-30% dips are not new at all.
here are some examples:
-16% dip 2017-6-12
-19% dip 2017-5-25
-13% dip 2017-5-11
-27% dip 2017-3-10
-22% dip 2017-1-5
...
-9% dip yesterday!

and these are just 1 day dips . bitcoin has always been volatile like this, with stable times in between.

these are the biggest dips in the history of last year in 24 hours and yeah only 2 fall in the higher 20% range.
in more than 1 day the dips were sometimes bigger.

the bitfinex hack happened on 2016-8-2 and it was a 24% drop in one day.

it is real
back up about 1 hour and a half in this video and you will see it (it is not possible to give a time stamp since this is live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga3maNZ0x0w

edit: it is already viral
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/12/someone-held-up-a-buy-bitcoin-sign-during-yellens-testimony-to-congress.html

edit 2:
i love that guy's face, it is less than a second and he knows he is being naughty

bitcoin 101 for newcomers (apparently):
1. you download your bitcoin node client and start it up
2. the node goes through a series of hard coded IP addresses to connect to one of them. these IP addresses are for reliable, always up, nodes (that is why they are hard coded anyways). you connect to one of them.
3. end of story. you are now connected to the bitcoin p2p network and receive the rest of the IP addresses from the nodes that you are connected to via a specific message.

1. when you open your node again. restart or whatever. your node has saved all the IP addresses of nodes that it successfully connected to before. now it has a bigger list.

where is this DNS thing you ask,
it is only a fallback method in case your node failed to connect to any of the nodes (hard coded IPs which are reliable nodes that are always up and responding) or your list of previously connected nodes. it connects to the next source to find IP addresses of the other nodes to connect to.

in other words the "casual user" will probably never even use them!

(i am not an expert but) it seems like this is not a solution this is how the client always worked. this seems to be the list of peers (nodes) that you have connected to so far. your node saves them after successful connection or when it receives the list from another node.
the solution is what bones said, you edit that part about Seeds out.


the extra paranoid run their own code, they don't trust a downloaded code from anyone
like me "trying" to do it. i didn't even know these seeds existed! i just have the hard coded IPs hard coded in my own thing and connect to one without any trouble so far.