All posts made by meyer lansky in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 12327316 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

 Huh Cry Roll Eyes :oplease i am new here.i want to buy and hoard bitcoins.my question is when is the right time to buy bitcoins at the cheapest price.thank you! Huh Undecided Cry



2. Post 12330759 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on September 04, 2015, 05:15:55 PM
Huh Cry Roll Eyes :oplease i am new here.i want to buy and hoard bitcoins.my question is when is the right time to buy bitcoins at the cheapest price.thank you! Huh Undecided Cry

Saturday night. We often get a weekend discount after the paycheck Friday pump. Also, no wire transfers on weekends so bulls often run out of fiat and bears take advantage.

Of course, if too many people think that way, it doesn't happen.
@ billyjoeallen....thanks a lot.i have read all your discussions and replies here.it took me over 2wks to finish them.you are superb.i am a ''rich'' hyip gambler of over 9 years!.i invest in my e-currencies gold and bitcoins.i just wanted to know the best time to use my perfect money,payeer,payza,okpay,stp,neteller and skrill to buy bitcoins despite the fact that i still utilise bitcoins for my hyip gambles.since you say saturday night,i will be buying at least some bitcoins every saturday night from my hyip gambles prfit.thanks a lot.i will be sending  you some bitcoins sooner or later.please have a good day!!! THANK YOU!



3. Post 12379033 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on September 10, 2015, 04:21:29 AM

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/02/150203_SCI_BeanieBabyShop.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg  Huh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k8uez/youth_are_the_killer_app_of_bitcoin/
you have a point. Grin



4. Post 12379938 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf i came across this.pls i am a newbie.is this true? if yes,then 1] does that mean the bitcoin price will be bearish or bullish? 2]after the so called conference in canada will the price of bitcoin be bearish or bullish? thank you!



5. Post 12380479 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

Quote from: LMGTFY on September 10, 2015, 11:10:38 AM
http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf i came across this.pls i am a newbie.is this true? if yes,then 1] does that mean the bitcoin price will be bearish or bullish? 2]after the so called conference in canada will the price of bitcoin be bearish or bullish? thank you!

Fairly certain it's true - it's the first time I've seen the actual letter, but I know that the signatories support BIP101.

1. I believe it's already been "priced in", and that it is, in part, the reason for the price stagnation over the past several weeks.

2. That depends on the outcome of the meeting! e.g. if the meeting finishes with no consensus, I'd view it as bearish. If the meeting ends with everyone hugging - well, that'd be bullish!

My opinion only, others may (will!) disagree, don't bet your house on anything I say!
thanks a lot!!!.i wanted to ask how can 1 be following the events of the meeting in canada on monday or will it be held closed doors? thank you. 



6. Post 12381026 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

i like the the members here-especially the senior and hero members. Grin i feel good that you guys want we newbies to grow.it's exhilarating Cheesy. thanks in a ''trillion'' of BITCOINS to you all!! Grin Grin Grin Grin and again thanks for the ever satisfying prompt answers.thank you!



7. Post 12381906 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.25h):

Quote from: kehtolo on September 10, 2015, 12:40:08 PM
http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf i came across this.pls i am a newbie.is this true? if yes,then 1] does that mean the bitcoin price will be bearish or bullish? 2]after the so called conference in canada will the price of bitcoin be bearish or bullish? thank you!

Fairly certain it's true - it's the first time I've seen the actual letter, but I know that the signatories support BIP101.

1. I believe it's already been "priced in", and that it is, in part, the reason for the price stagnation over the past several weeks.

2. That depends on the outcome of the meeting! e.g. if the meeting finishes with no consensus, I'd view it as bearish. If the meeting ends with everyone hugging - well, that'd be bullish!

My opinion only, others may (will!) disagree, don't bet your house on anything I say!
thanks a lot!!!.i wanted to ask how can 1 be following the events of the meeting in canada on monday or will it be held closed doors? thank you.  

just to answer you.. head on over to coindesk.. they're live blogging it..  i can't guarantee how exciting it is going to be however...

http://www.coindesk.com/live-blog-consensus-2015-as-it-happens/

Also on twitter with the hashtag: #Consensus2015
hmmmmmm.......since i am afraid that bitcoinXT will be supported,''Bitcoin XT contains an unmentioned addition which periodically downloads lists of Tor IP addresses for blacklisting...... ''https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.20'' .the main characteristic feature-anonymity of bitcoin will be dead....truly not all that glitters is gold! Huh Embarrassed Lips sealed Undecided



8. Post 12387442 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on September 10, 2015, 05:31:37 PM
hmmmmmm.......since i am afraid that bitcoinXT will be supported,''Bitcoin XT contains an unmentioned addition which periodically downloads lists of Tor IP addresses for blacklisting...... ''https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.20'' .the main characteristic feature-anonymity of bitcoin will be dead....truly not all that glitters is gold! Huh Embarrassed Lips sealed Undecided

Geez, Newbie. It's a trivial matter to turn off the I.P. "blacklisting". It's just a feature for nodes that don't want to deal with slow-ass onion routing.

These objections to larger block sizes seem disingenuous. It appears to be just a miner power grab, and a wrong-headed one at that. The real way to create a market for miner fees is to expand adoption, not squeeze the current users.  

Erhmmm  Roll Eyes

How's that supposed to work? How many "blockspace" do I get for 1 bitcoin?
 

Easy. 1/21,000,000th of the whole chain.  I answered your question, now you answer mine. If I'm not buying space on the blockchain when I'm buying bitcoin, what am I buying?

Give it a rest already. It should have been obvious that I wasn't being literal. Do you has Asperger's Syndrome?
hmmm...asperger's? i never knew you are also erudite in paediatrics. Roll Eyes



9. Post 12387479 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: Norway on September 10, 2015, 07:29:54 PM
snip

i hope you die from eye cancer  Angry

Put him on ignore, like I did a long time ago  Cheesy
is he an eccentric of a headbanger? Huh



10. Post 12388086 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: nioc on September 10, 2015, 11:25:01 PM
I have been away for a week and I don't see how I can read the how ever many 100s of posts I missed.

Has anything important happened during that time?

Thank you
scary! was there no source of internet or electricity? anyway,welcome back! Grin



11. Post 12406524 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: ssmc2 on September 09, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Hey BJA, when did you become such a pessimist? I use to enjoy reading your posts.
as a newbie,i enjoy he/she too.he/she is distinct! Grin



12. Post 12406644 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: macsga on September 11, 2015, 06:38:58 AM
Not as effective without jumping ponies. But the subtle lack of suprise porn is nice. I'd say this thread is finally SFW again. FWIW Tongue




Edit: I guess I asked for it. Somehow.. Angry

newbies cant post pic anymore but that wont stop them him!

If you want SFW you might wanna put meyer lansky on ignore. He/she/it is about to turn into a beautiful butterfly.

Yeah; my thoughts exactly. Still; I find his personality amusing, so I'll just let him be for the time being...  Grin
what were you and fatman insinuating? Undecided Huh



13. Post 12407025 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: PoolMinor on September 13, 2015, 08:03:30 AM
@ Jorge and others that still don't get it.

bitcoin: The price we pay to store information on the blockchain.

Bitcoin: The protocol that employs the open source ledger of information that is secured via payment of bitcoin.
hmmmm....@poolminor,that was a splendid redraft to stolfi.welldone!



14. Post 12407094 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: RenegadeMan on September 13, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
In fact, many of the problems that he describes are in fact features and NOT bugs

Since you are a holder and speculator, of course we disagree on that.  In my view, you are one of bitcoin's problems.  Grin


Little bit disingenuous of you to participate in a thread to judge others who are investing into something and to call them "problems" because they are investing.  What are you investing in?  naysaying the activities of others?






a claim that there needs to be a built in approximate 2% inflation (or devaluation) is preposterous because it supposedly addresses a non-existing problem, at least at this time.

so make it a bad investment?

Bitcoin was created to be a currency, not another speculative asset- and dividend-free investment fund (or pyramid scheme, its more honest name).  There is no shortage of the latter, and (as I wrote earlier) that use of bitcoin will not make the world better, create new wealth, or render some useful service; it will just move wealth from some people to other people.

You are full of shit!!!!  Bitcoin was created for a variety of purposes, including the currency aspect.  You seem to be oversimplifying matters in order to create strawmen arguments.  and mislead others by oversimplification.







Economists have know for 500 years that a currency must have some inflation, otherwise people will hoard it and it will not be available for use as a currency.  


Yeah.. appeal to authority... 500 years  OMG... you really are saying something here........ NOT.  You are just making up facts out of your ass.






The use of bitcoin for investment and speculation had two other bad consequences.  First, it lifted the price to 100 times what it should have been, given its current level of usage.  The price is floating in the air, high up, anchored to itself through the hopes of traders and holders.  It could crash from there at any moment.  No company in its right mind would want to hold it, even temporarily.  Imagine a manager accepting a payment of 1000 BTC today, and the price crashing tomorrow, before he can spend or sell those coins.  How could he explain that to the company owners? (You can find out there an audio of Overstock's CEO trying to explain something like that to the other shareholders; but AFAIK he is the majority holder, so he won't get fired for that...)


YES.... what if, what if...   You know better than that.  if you are using bitcoin as a payment system, then you have the option to cash out right away or to hold them for a specific cash out time. With anything new, there may be a learning curve concerning decisions regarding when to cash out, if cashing out is part of the plan.




Second, but tied to the first: bitcoin's use as instrument of speculative trade made its price extremely volatile.  Even in times of "stability", like the past 7 months, the price has changed by ±10% in a few hours, several times.  Volatility is bad for a currency: the user who buys BTC to pay for something will lose money if the BTC price drops between the two actions, and will not really win if it goes up -- because he will be left with a small amount of BTC that he may not find a good use for.

That is why a good cryptocurrency must be designed to NOT be a good investment.


Yes, if an asset is volatile, then that needs to be taken into account, but that volatility does NOT mean that it is a bad thing because, as I already mentioned, BTC is much more than a currency.    You again are attempting to frame facts in an incomplete way in order to engage in scare tactics....

All of these months in bitcoin, and you still have NOT learned how to be more comprehensive in your analysis rather than simplified and selective extrapolations?





his suggestion that Satoshi would agree...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Wat da fuck?

From what I have read, I am satisfied that  Satoshi intended bitcoin to be what he wrote in the whitepaper: a system for peer to peer payments through the internet that did not require a trusted third party.  He believed that the world needed such a thing, but no one knew how to build it, and thought that he had found a way.    That seems to have been his motivation to design the bitcoin protocol; and he then implemented it to see whether the idea worked out in practice.

But Satoshi was a computer scientist, not an economist.  He thought that it would be nice if the currency had no inflation.  For "everybody" knows that inflation is bad, right? I thought so too.

His he pleased about what bitcoin turned out to be?  Well, on one hand it is always satisfying to do something big, even if it is a big nuclear accident or the sinking of the Titanic.  But I doubt that he is happy about what his creature has become...




Your further explanation supports that you are engaged in a BIG ASS guessing game regarding what Satoshi thought or what he would think.  It does little to no good for you to engage in this kind of speculation to go back to "original intent" or to attempt to attribute the direction of bitcoin to the "founder," because in fact, Satoshi either removed himself or fell out of the bitcoin scene.... Accordingly, bitcoin became a dynamic phenomenon that is influenced by a variety of players (rather than by any one player).   in other words, bitcoin has become a sort of community asset, and there is some freedom for anyone to buy into it or to refrain from such.  Even though you are fairly informed about bitcoin, you seem to be someone who has knowingly chosen NOT to financially invest into bitcoin, but instead chosen to invest into denigrating bitcoin.... I'm fairly certain that some anti-bitcoin entities would be willing to pay you to continue in such supposedly voluntary and unpaid conduct.  So, are you being paid for all of the time that you spend in the various bitcoin forums?  You must be receiving some payments for your work and/or your publications and/or your attempts to build your reputation as some kind of anti-bitcoin "expert." 

Sorry to some of you for using the term "expert" in the same sentence in which I am referring to Stolfi.....   Cry Cry Cry



Why so much agro and upset about Jorge's posts? He's not threatening you (or perhaps he is somehow?). He has a view and he expresses and articulates that view pretty well. I don't agree with much of what he says either but I appreciate that his posts are coherent, quite well written and free from personal attacks or vitriol. In fact, he's very gracious in his responses to many of you that get all so incensed that he's expressing the views that he is; and this is indicative that some of what he's saying has seriously hooked your innards and is tearing at you in some manner. That you're responding in such an affronted way says to me you're not 100% sure and his line of thought on this stuff causes internal conflict.

If you don't agree with his take on Bitcoin (and crypto in general), just point out calmly and unemotionally where his logic, assumptions or beliefs are flawed. I think it's very good to have someone like him putting the ideas up he does as it makes for interesting consideration of his views versus alternatives.

Isn't this what a thread like this is about?
@ renegademan,truly you are worth to be a senior member from your utterance.we do not have to be volatile.how can some1 like fatman3001 be referring to me as ''it''?.i never knew some form of racism exists in the bitcoin world! Huh Huh Huh



15. Post 12409424 (copy this link) (by meyer lansky) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.26h):

Quote from: RenegadeMan on September 13, 2015, 10:03:09 AM


Why so much agro and upset about Jorge's posts? He's not threatening you (or perhaps he is somehow?). He has a view and he expresses and articulates that view pretty well. I don't agree with much of what he says either but I appreciate that his posts are coherent, quite well written and free from personal attacks or vitriol. In fact, he's very gracious in his responses to many of you that get all so incensed that he's expressing the views that he is; and this is indicative that some of what he's saying has seriously hooked your innards and is tearing at you in some manner. That you're responding in such an affronted way says to me you're not 100% sure and his line of thought on this stuff causes internal conflict.

If you don't agree with his take on Bitcoin (and crypto in general), just point out calmly and unemotionally where his logic, assumptions or beliefs are flawed. I think it's very good to have someone like him putting the ideas up he does as it makes for interesting consideration of his views versus alternatives.

Isn't this what a thread like this is about?

Your gracious friend has been trolling this forum for years now. I agree that there is no need to get all fired up about it, but to "point out calmly and unemotionally where his logic, assumptions or beliefs are flawed" is even more of a waste.

He has some ideas that (I think) are the very antithesis of what crypto is all about. Suggesting that there'll inevitably have to be a rethink on the 21 million cap and that an increase will eventually happen is the slippery slope to Bitcoin being just another manipulated disaster like we're seeing with almost all fiat currencies (and, obviously to get it to be manipulatable like that, will require some dramatic action and reallocation of mining resources away from the current Bitcoin community). In fact he basically seems to have a line of thought that takes the current monetary system's "features" and attributes and retrospectively applies them to Bitcoin like "it's just how money works and if Bitcoin doesn't hold these properties it will fail". That I find to be backward thinking as it's failing to see the paradigm of how central bankers and Wall Street "run" the monetary system is THE problem and to use it as a framework of sorts for how crypto needs to operate is everything crypto isn't and should never be (but any conversation about 'money' is by nature controversial and complex).

My point though is he appears to have many people quite riled up and that's unfortunate. His points simply need to be deconstructed and the flaws pointed out. But if it's a waste of time doing that (and I haven't been in this thread for more than a few months) then probably best to just let him post and not respond.

Either way I don't find his posts to be trollish in their nature (but maybe his "graciousness" is hiding a whole other agenda I'm not aware of) and I appreciate he's expressing his view and that's perfectly okay.
....hmmmm...you have a point Angry Angry Angry