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1. Post 41775635 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_16.00h):

Quote from: bones261 on July 08, 2018, 02:03:30 PM


Isn't this the same footage where the thing blew up moments later?  Cheesy


no

Confirmed. footage that still haunts me has shuttle at different angle.


Just such a pity of about the sad ending.



2. Post 53896979 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: Ibian on February 23, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Why don't you guys talk about an ordinary flu? It kills more than half a million people every year. Instead of that you like to talk about the corona virus? Why? You want others to stop using cash? Paper bills because they might be infected with a virus? You want to scare them to start using crypto? Is that it? You want cashless society? Well maybe that's better. But lets just say that without playing games around. Lets just say hey people from now on we'll use crypto the new money. Yea!
Because corona is far worse. Spend a few days on youtube before coming back.

Corona is a class of 7 human viruses.
CoV-229E  and  CoV-OC43 two common cold strains.
NL63 was identified in 2004
HKU1 was identified in 2005
MERS-CoV from 2012
SARS-CoV in 2002-2003
SARS-CoV-2 virus COVID-19 Disease is the latest one.

https://youtu.be/oUT14ZaAINk?t=3

World wide infected up to Feb 21



3. Post 53903955 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 24, 2020, 01:27:43 PM
I'll bite.  What's the meaning of an M7 hand sign?

edit: here's the reference


Maybe for Bitcoin Belle real name Michele Seven
https://hackernoon.com/bitcoin-belles-ccme-the-woman-who-brought-you-craig-satoshi-wright-strikes-again-f74e4ef129a4
Tax issues in 2009
https://youtu.be/fRJozKGUGiQ
Fee State Project
https://www.fsp.org/
The discussion in November 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE



4. Post 53910229 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.16h):

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on February 25, 2020, 02:15:43 PM
Well, Rush is now saying that Corona is just the common cold, so bearish for Bitcoin.

Hm.

Rush?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-coronavirus-trump_n_5e5458c8c5b65e0f11c53eac

"It's just the flu bro".  Shocked
On average 650 000 people die every year from "the flu", millions if pandemic.
90 flu-related deaths where report in North Carolina so far this season and in Oklahoma 36 death, just 2 states.
There is no reported death from SARS-Cov-2 virus in US to date. The total death from any coronavirus in history is less than 5000.
HCoV-229E and OC43 the two common cold viruses give a running nose thats about it.

The flu (Orthomyxoviridae) is in another league.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg53898245#msg53898245



5. Post 53928743 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: jupiter9 on February 28, 2020, 11:08:30 AM
Almost no virus in Africa and South America.
Not a single infection in central America and a single in South America (Brazil)
3 have been in whole of Africa, 1 recovered

China has active land borders with 13 countries 9 of them no-one infected ever.
The 4 countries who did have 22 people infected all recovered.
No neighbor country has anyone infected currently and none deaths in those countries.

North Korea 0
Mongolia 0
Kazakhstan 0
Kyrgystan 0
Tajikistan 0
Pakistan 0
Myanmar (Burma) 0
Bhutan 0
Laos 0
Nepal 1
Russia 2
India 3
Vietnam 16

Edit; Pakistan has 2 infected.




6. Post 53928805 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: jupiter9 on February 28, 2020, 11:28:50 AM
Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?

Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

What? a virus does not just spontaneously create itself or teleport from one location to another. I know that doesn't happen because science.
Yea it's strange to me that the cured people could get the infection again after a very short time. Is this even possible?  I mean once you get cured you're supposed to be healthy at least for some time.

Yes completely normal ask anyone with infected with Herpes virus. There is no cure for a virus infection immune-system will suppress it (if it manages to overcome it), put it to sleep.



7. Post 53929238 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Meantime in DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO Ebola virus and Bubonic plague

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The epidemiological situation of the Ebola virus disease in the provinces of North Kivu and Ituri dated 24 Feb 2020:

Since the start of the epidemic, the cumulative number of cases has been 3444, of which 3310 have been confirmed and 134 are probable. In total, there were 2264 deaths (2130 confirmed and 134 probable) and 1167 winners (people healed, or survivors);
- 453 suspected cases are under investigation;
- No new confirmed cases;
- No new deaths among the confirmed cases, including no community deaths;
- No healed person has left the Ebola treatment centers;
- No health worker is among the new confirmed cases. The cumulative number of confirmed/probable cases among health workers is 167 (approximately 5% of all confirmed/probable cases), including 41 deaths.

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Bubonic plague investigation
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On 22 Feb 2020, the Aungba Health Zone chief medical doctor was alerted that suspect bubonic plague cases were reported in the Ugunzu-Makangi village of the Aterlembe health area, Djugu territory, Ituri Province, DR Congo. Murine epizootics were also mentioned in the Makangi village. On 23 Feb 2020, the chief medical doctor of the Aungba health Zone  was appointed to visit the health center of Aterlembe for 2 days to investigate suspect bubonic plague cases. The head doctor Dr Delphonse Unen Ali reported on the same day (23 Feb 2020) on the outbreak. The nurse of the Aterlembe health center notified 2 suspected cases of bubonic plague. He reported that the index cases were 2 family members who presented with fever, headache, and painful buboes on 22 Feb 2020 at 2 health centers. After self-medicating for 6 days (16-22 Feb 2020), they consulted as ambulatory patients the Kpese health post and then the Yuku health center, both in the Aru health zone. A 2-year-old boy died on 21 Feb 2020 with symptoms consistent with that of bubonic plague (fever, painful buboes), the 2nd patient -- the 12 year old brother of the co-primary case -- tested positive for plague with the RDT [rapid diagnostic test] and is recovering. He presented with fever, painful buboes, and headaches. So far 16 contacts have been traced and treated with doxycycline, 27 households were dusted.
Lets hope they done a good job.

During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of the flu. Mortality rate of 5-10%
https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-pandemic-deaths.htm



8. Post 53930279 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: lightfoot on February 28, 2020, 03:16:05 PM
You're shivering needlessly.  Your body is trying to warm you up to aid it in fighting the illness which is why you are shivering.  Instead of suffering like that, you could just get in a nice warm bath/shower.  It stops your body from shivering, relaxes your body (and mind), likely reduces any congestion you may be feeling and allows you to then curl up under the blankets and sleep like a baby.  Just don't let your temp go above 40.5°C (105°F) instantaneously or over 39.4 °C (103°F) for a longer than 48 hours.  Also it's best to have help getting in and out of the tub/shower as you may be dizzy.

Hm. I never thought of that. Thanks!

Wonder when the helicopters of money will start being dropped. My guess is it will only be on Red states, just prolonging the agony.

Helicopter money is on the way in China. 10,000 yuan for poor people is a years wage. A whole family infected wipes of the loan, no worries.
Who can resist, just saying i may have it is worth a months wage.  How many will be fortunate enough to be sick. Treatment also available what can go wrong?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-rewards/china-city-offers-1400-reward-for-virus-patients-who-report-to-authorities-idUSKCN20L0GE?utm

China is full of good ideas



9. Post 53955482 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 03, 2020, 11:19:43 AM
Never seen so much panic about most likely nothing too horrific


Now extrapolate to the entire world being infected. Cause that's the most likely scenario. Show us the numbers.

Anyone not a (San Fransisco bay area) homeless, has a healthy immune-system, plenty of Vitamine C and enjoys sunshine, chances are not any of the coronaviruses will be a major bother.
Anyone freezing on the side of the road has medical issues abused the immune-system with drugs or whatnot, is malnourished and lacks Vitamine C, things could get interesting.

So about 9,500,000 people died this year, lets say (cough) 3000 from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.031% and most of them old and sick already.



10. Post 53973363 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: bkbirge on March 06, 2020, 02:31:20 AM
We were all just half-joking about this yesterday or the day before, apparently a real concern...
https://news.yahoo.com/cash-could-spreading-coronavirus-warns-154003480.html
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"We know that money changes hands frequently and can pick up all sorts of bacteria and viruses and things like that," a WHO representative told The Telegraph. "We would advise people to wash their hands after handling banknotes and avoid touching their face."

Viruses spread easy with something lots of people touch, like touch-screens. They are everywhere like ticket-machines, self-service checkouts, cash deposit machines and restaurants like Mc Donald's... They also dry and a bit warm so bit closer to Virus optimal temperature.
Quick lets move fingers all over the screen and order triple dose, one Common Cold plus Flu and some SARS-CoV-2 oh maybe a dose of feces as side dish as well.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/28/poo-found-on-every-mcdonalds-touchscreen-tested-8178486/
and most important
https://gfycat.com/delightfulunhappyaracari-facepalm-corona-funny-edit-wow-wtf-omg-lol



11. Post 53976392 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Elwar on March 06, 2020, 01:57:02 PM


If Bloomberg bought bitcoin instead of spending money on his campaign he could have given everyone in the world 21 million bitcoins.
Only 18,255,925 exist, lots of them lost, mine he cant get his hand on



12. Post 53980441 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Spain the leader, USA runner up with 14 death and 8 recovered
23 Countries have 100% recovery rate, shining stars Singapore, Malaysia, Germany, Vietnam
64 of the infected Countries have not reported any dead or recovered.
Average time of the Korea deaths is 2.5 days between COVID-19 diagnosis and death.

.Rec. Death-Recovered
Singapore780,00%
Malaysia230,00%
Germany170,00%
Vietnam160,00%
Macau100,00%
Canada80,00%
U A E50,00%
Bahrain40,00%
India30,00%
Israel20,00%
Oman20,00%
Russia20,00%
Belgium10,00%
Cambodia10,00%
Denmark10,00%
Egypt10,00%
Finland10,00%
Lebanon10,00%
Mexico10,00%
Nepal10,00%
Romania10,00%
Sri Lanka10,00%
Thailand313,23%
Hong-Kong513,92%
China554035,54%
Taiwan128,33%
Japan4613,04%
Iran91313,58%
Diamond-P.4015,00%
UK825,00%
S. Korea13532,59%
Switzerland333,33%
Italy52337,67%
France1275,00%
Philippines1100,00%
US8175,00%
Spain2250,00%



13. Post 53982561 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: Hawkix on March 07, 2020, 02:25:13 PM
The info is BULLSHIT.

I no way the diameter of COVID-19 is 500 micrometers. You would see it with naked eye.
A lot of rubbish COVID-19 is a disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, approx size of  125 nm (nanometer), Influenza virus is about 80 to 120 mµ (nanometer)
Any mask Grin Cheesy



14. Post 53983667 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.17h):

Quote from: bitserve on March 07, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

So the alternative being fully socialising it would probably work better IN COMPARISON... Unless they manage to keep corrupting the system somehow... which probably they would.

Is there any country where a pure capitalist health system exist? If there is, I would like to know and compare costs.
Places like Vietnam, Bangladesh and such would come closed.
Angola, Pakistan.. have low spending on total GDP
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?name_desc=false

Edit2: Monaco spends the least on Health
Monaco 1.75% of GDP
Papua New Guinea 1.98% of GDP
Brunei  2.34% of GDP



15. Post 53989532 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: DaRude on March 08, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
Is the blood on the streets yet? I can't tell the coronazombies are blocking my view.
Make sure the car is filled up, dont want to run out of gas
https://youtu.be/TytpF-ia3o4?t=12



16. Post 53996772 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):

Quote from: Last of the V8s on March 09, 2020, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: a bitcoiner
lmao, dr just diagnosed I had bronchitis following a virus, either flu or coronavirus :| and she said that the cdc was telling doctors that there's approximately 100-200k infected in the US already
if it was corona I would have had to have gotten exposed way before they said it reached my area

Some claims floating about vaping deaths (EVALI) have been misdiagnosed and in fact is COVID-19, symptoms identical
As of February 18, 2020, a total of 2,807 hospitalized EVALI cases or deaths have been reported to CDC from all 50 states.
Sixty-eight deaths have been confirmed in 29 states and the District of Columbia (as of February 18, 2020).
Vaping is responsible for 68 deaths?
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

Something seriously wrong with Italy.
3120 deaths to almost 1.5 billion times Italy's pop would be 131 deaths, it's now 463 also about 2 week advance notice and delayed
3120 / 1427647786 = 0.00000218541 * 60317546 = 131
the other way round would make almost 11000 dead in China
  (463 / 60317546) * 1427647786 = 10958

If taken and say Singapore which still has clean sheet is 0.00000218541 * 5638700 = 12
US would make
0.00000218541 * 320,000,000 = 699
0.00000218541 * 83042200 = 181 (would be for germany in about 2 weeks)

China new infections
2 Mar 2020   127
3 Mar 2020   116
4 Mar 2020   142
5 Mar 2020   143
6 Mar 2020   99
7 Mar 2020   44
8 Mar 2020   40
9 Mar 2020   44 ?



17. Post 53998861 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.18h):


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg53998803#msg53998803

The source of the data form The Center for Systems Science and Engineering(CSSE) at JHU
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6




18. Post 54018209 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: Icygreen on March 13, 2020, 01:46:59 AM
Italy has a 3.5% mortality rate with one of the best health systems in the world.  It’s not the fucking flu.

It’s a sort of flu, but much more serious as a common one, though I don’t know the current measures are necessarily....

Sometimes I think we should just under go it then again if it’s much more serious and more people getting dead cause it, then I understand we have to take care and things must happen

We now have friends whom have caught and recovered (not official tested), myself and my SO included. If that's accurate, it was a weak ass flu that takes you down for 2-3 days then low level energy for a few days, but a slow full recovery and if you've got any existing (respiratory for example) compromises, it'll hang out there until the immune system finally kicks which could take weeks (which was my case)  2 other friends also became sick, 40's and 50's during my stay on Phu Quy in January where I caught it from, they recovered within a week.
The friend who we suspect caught it in Milan, traveled to S.Africa before showing symptoms, he passed it on to another friend but not his SO, he's living a very healthy lifestyle but living with HIV and a cancer survivor in his early 60's.  He recovered within a week.

My SO caught it early on, before the announcement in January, actually we believe she caught it in late November in S.Vietnam around many Chinese travelers.  She's healthy without pre-existing compromises to the immunity system. She describes it as the strongest flu she's ever encountered and and felt like death. She ,early 40's recovered within 10 days with ginger tea.

I've been tracking known flu results of several others as well.
My hypothesis is that this is the fucking flu,
It's getting weaker and weaker as time moves on but contagion remains easy because this is a completely foreign strain.

Sorry, no factual proof as usual from me on ground 0 but this is the only virus I've seen in the wild this year and I move a fair bit so I believe its probable that I've already been exposed and have account of other experiences. As more personal accounts appear and recover, I expect the panic to subside significantly once people realize its not gonna kill them.

I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes


theymos thinks he may also hat it.  It certainly is bad news for anyone with organ transplant or asthma, heavy smoker/vaper obese ....

Quote
(I recently had all of the symptoms of the virus. I wonder if I had it, or if it was just the ordinary flu. It was very unpleasant, though I got over it in a few days.)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54017323#msg54017323



19. Post 54019698 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on March 12, 2020, 11:22:05 PM
Italy has a 3.5% mortality rate with one of the best health systems in the world.  It’s not the fucking flu.

Data so far shows the death to recovery rate is worse in countries who spent more on health.
By the looks of things people also lack Vitamins C, D (sun)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54019072#msg54019072



20. Post 54020343 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.19h):

Quote from: wavessurfing on March 13, 2020, 09:41:34 AM
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There's another reason why an effective vaccine is going to be unlikely in the short term. First HIV has been around for 40 years and there is still no vaccine, some of the sequences on the spike protein for this virus have HIV homology. Secondly is, the SARS virus vaccine trials on animals revealed a mechanism known as Antibody-dependent enhancement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement which means if you get vaccinated with these vaccines then you are actually making yourself more susceptible to the virus because it hijacks the antibodies you created for it to attack your cells more readily. Which is the same mechanism that can also be triggered by a second strain of the virus which is similar but different enough to trigger a second immune response, in some cases progresses to a massive immune over-reaction, i.e. cytokine storm. (It's evil don't hyperventilate yet but just don't get it the first time). Some commentators speculated that those video clips from Wuhan and S. Korea of people collapsing in the street were cytokine storm victims who had somehow got an ADE response from a second virus infection. All that 80% mild case talk is dangerous because those people might have just made themselves vulnerable to secondary lethal infection regardless of how young healthy fit they are. In fact in that case a vigorous immune system is the threat because that is what will get you the second time around, your own body's immune reaction.

We are early days in understanding this beast.

thank you for explanation, i learn something here.
SARS appeared out of nowhere in 2003 since 2004 not a single case reported worldwide.
None of the existing vaccine will work when another new virus appears at some future time.
Something like 26 available now, at what stage is danger of overdose.
also
https://youtu.be/f1jV3tJ2Lqw
Vaccines are "over-unity" devices. 100% healthy + shot now 101% healthy



21. Post 54031229 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.20h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 15, 2020, 06:51:03 AM
“Flattening the Curve” is a deadly delusion

https://medium.com/@joschabach/flattening-the-curve-is-a-deadly-delusion-eea324fe9727

Good morning WO,s


Excluding China 3226 currently are in critical condition. 1518 of them in Italy
The average age of Italy's death from the COVID-19 dis ease is 80,3 for men and 84,2 for woman
Some countries have much better success rate than others, the aged cruise ship passenger are in better shape than a lot of others
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54030813#msg54030813

edit
South Korea and France, what a contrast




22. Post 54063876 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: Ibian on March 20, 2020, 11:30:40 AM
Oh look, another research paper further showing the virus gets weaker in warmer, more humid weather. And spring just started yesterday.  Grin

https://www.accuweather.com/en/health-wellness/new-study-says-high-temperature-and-high-relative-humidity-significantly-reduce-spread-of-covid-19/703418

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551767

"After estimating the serial interval of COVID-19 from 105 pairs of the virus carrier and the infected, we calculate the daily effective reproductive number, R, for each of all 100 Chinese cities with more than 40 cases. Using the daily R values from January 21 to 23, 2020 as proxies of non-intervened transmission intensity, we find, under a linear regression framework for 100 Chinese cities, high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19, respectively, even after controlling for population density and GDP per capita of cities. One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 0.0383 and 0.0224, respectively. This result is consistent with the fact that the high temperature and high humidity significantly reduce the transmission of influenza. It indicates that the arrival of summer and rainy season in the northern hemisphere can effectively reduce the transmission of the COVID-19."
Explain Thailand and other hot places. No, we can safely say this is not so.

Humid and hot places are worlds apart.
Only few places with tropical rainforest, Brazil, Congo, Malysia and  the majorety live in the citys hot/dry and not in the jungle.
Bangladesh, Laos.....moonsoon season about to start. Laos a neighour to China so far not a single person infected. Bangladesh 160 Mil pop 20 people infected. Luxembourg 0.6 mil) has more infected people as Thailand (70mil),
So far no  death in Finland as lots go to saunas, some few in Russia alos some sauna fans.
Homeless people dwell in sewers also less effected. With that many bacteries around even viruse flee.
The average flat is unhealty dry, some have water containers attached to radiators, helps a bit.




23. Post 54080780 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: Phil_S on March 23, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
If you guys worry about uncertainty, do I have some "good news" for you!

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/im-going-to-get-it-we-all-are-njs-top-health-official-says-as-she-leads-the-states-coronavirus-war.html

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“I’m definitely going to get it. We all are,” N.J.’s top health official Judith Persichilli says matter-of-factly. “I’m just waiting.”

It will probably be mild. She’ll feel sick for a few days, then hopefully get better, she says. It may not be this month or this year. But, she’s studied all the coronavirus pandemic algorithms and consulted the experts. It’s coming for her — and me. And you, she fears.


Lots already did have it, some not even notice it. Also varies a lot from country to country.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54079956#msg54079956



24. Post 54086199 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: VB1001 on March 24, 2020, 07:10:46 AM
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Moonsoon  season soon to start in some places.  Spread in place with rain all day every day next to zero.
How long before the first wave of "health refugee's"?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54085660#msg54085660



25. Post 54119265 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 29, 2020, 03:35:39 PM
Have to agree with Roger Vermin here -

@rogerkver
If YOU are worried about the coronavirus, YOU should self isolate.
Leave the rest of us alone.
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1244263515172601857?s=21


Suicides will start in weeks, months time with all the economic ruins, it be way worse than the media turbo charged virus
One of the first
https://www.dw.com/en/german-state-finance-minister-thomas-sch%C3%A4fer-found-dead/a-52948976



26. Post 54119384 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: bones261 on March 29, 2020, 05:12:31 PM
Have to agree with Roger Vermin here -

@rogerkver
If YOU are worried about the coronavirus, YOU should self isolate.
Leave the rest of us alone.
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1244263515172601857?s=21


Those statistics are already outdated and are assuming that China has been completely transparent about their statistics regarding this matter. I don't trust China's level of transparency. I suspect that they only release numbers that make them look as good as possible.
Then you also have to disregart Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan,  Myanmar*, Mongolia*, Vietnam*, Laos*, Kyrgyzstan*, Tajikistan*, Bhutan*, Nepal*...........
*China neighbours, no deaths



27. Post 54119492 (copy this link) (by Tash) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_17.21h):

Quote from: rolling on March 29, 2020, 05:26:09 PM
The real question is, what would the numbers be if there were no lock downs, no quarantines and no changes in anyone's daily life. Maybe we'll have a country in Africa or somewhere that doesn't do anything and we'll be able to see if all of the "panic" was worth it.
Sweden has no lock down, most African countries
Belarus's authoritarian leader Lukashenko tells everyone go to sauna, no lockdown here, no COVID deaths so far.