$465! Thanks bears for the cheap coins  

Damn, how many times I got to tell you guys?

The only reason price is still down at this level is because wall street is manipulating the market in one last ditch effort to buy cheap coins. Once they've had enough, they will allow natural organic growth to $1,000 and probably much higher.

They know that the longer they keep the price low, the more "weak hands" they can shake and get the price even lower. I'm optimistic, but in the short term I suspect we'll go lower still. Really, it's in the hands of our Wall Street overlords.  

When they want it to go up again, it will be epic.

My friend, every time people start to give up on a bubble, that means another is coming soon We only had to shake the weak hands first. Is this manipulation? Not completely. Some is, and some is just some people falling victim to the bear FUD in here and reddit. Some people honestly want out. But given the infrastructure and the fundamentals haven't changed, we should be well over $2,000 USD a coin now.

Just remember that, if the fundamentals haven't changed, then we are still good.

First they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they join you Wise words from Madiba Nelson Mandela, and very true.

Gandhi was too busy having sex with his grandnieces and spouting racial hatred about Africans to say anything smart like that. I think it's falsely attributed to him.

Bitcoin is the gift that keeps on giving. Coins cheaper, I keep buying. nom nom nom.

Thanks bears!

Risto's trend line is at ~$2,500 now. There has never been a better time to buy bitcoin! This happens every cycle: everyone becomes convinced that bitcoin is finished, and then it rises again!

If you don't like bitcoin, then why don't you just leave? This place is for bitcoin believers... those who can hold and not worry about the price 24 hours a day. If you think bitcoin is going down, then maybe bitcoin isn't for you. We really need the mods to start weeding these trolls out, so much FUD around here.

I'm thinking of getting a loan on my house to buy more at this price. We are so undervalued right now, this will be the investment opportunity of the decade.

I'm falllling? Why would he be getting a loan to buy bitcoin, I thought he was a bear troll...  

According to the long term trendline, $450 is our historical support. If there ever was a time to buy, this is it! Price will rise soon, just like last year in September. This is what's called a "bear trap".

I'm so excited by these low prices that I'm literally shaking.

!! Why are people selling? Oh well, I'll keep buying!! In less than a year, I'm going to be rich!

This is the final capitulation, look at all the n00bs and weak hands panic :D:D

Music to my ears. Rest assured, I'll be buying today for these historically low prices.

Like Warren Buffet said, buy bitcoin when there is blood in the streets!

Why are mods deleting threads on here? What do you have to hide?

choo choo to the moon! Where did all the trolls go?? Probably rushing to put their money on exchanges and buy!  

Dow Jones crashing every day! Meanwhile, bitcoin rising!

Bitcoin users not affected!

The bear trolls are gone, Blitz has banned idiots like fallling and his sock puppets who made ridiculous claims that bitcoin would  drop further in price! We all know $275 was absolute bottom, there is no way it's going lower.

So now finally, we can start back up again. The FUD spread around here this year has been way too much.

Dow Jones crashing again. Rejoice, my fellow bitcoin enthusiasts! Don't pay heed to the trolls and those who seek to destroy bitcoin, it is only a matter of time before the fed's funny money fails and the world buys into bitcoin!

Dow Jones down 2% today. Bitcoin users not affected!

Mods, you need to do something about all these trolls. I suggest that you shouldn't be able to post for at least a month after joining, so you can watch and learn first about this ground breaking technology before you're allowed to say anything.

OH look what a surprise, traders are dumping again to make their $50 profit. Way to go guys, isn't it cool to destroy the potential of this technology so you can make a little beer money? Idiots.

It's like, price didn't go up 10% today, so we better all dump everything again! Idiots.

Why do people keep selling! If you're not interested in holding for years, don't bother getting involved!! This is so frustrating!

Why are you people still selling?? Fundamentals have not changed at all! Are the weak hands really shaken that easily? So stupid.

Yeah, but when does it go up??? I don't care if it goes down, this is stupid. Traders are destroying the protocol by selfishly selling for tiny profits every single time we get any kind of rally started.

OH LOOK another dump. Thanks dumbass traders, we could have been well past the ATH by now, if the stupid traders weren't always ruining it. Does it make you happy to destroy bitcoin?

I have been waiting patiently since when I bought last year at $1100. Everyone told me that we were going up to $1,500 at least, so I went all in and now I'm being told I have to wait YEARS??? People, please, just stop selling and we will go back to the ATH immediately. This is market manipulation, it's so obvious. Just hold and don't let them win!

You're the troll, coming here every.single.day to whine and complain about the "dumpers" and other bull crap. Maybe you should take your own advice and put yourself on ignore.

What a shock, dumbasses are dumping again. Morons, if you would just hold instead of selling like sheep, we could be at an ATH by now.

Why are moroons selling again? Do you hate it so much that your coins are rising in value, you need to ruin it? Idiots!!

How many times do I need to tell you people... stop selling your coins! Please, help me prove fallling wrong. Hold your coins and we can send the price to ATH in 2014!

Must feel awful to have money in the stock market this month. Value plummeting every single day. But...

bitcoin users not affected!

What you see now is the shaking out of the weak hands. Just invest $10,000 USD in bitcoin, walk away for 20 years, and thank me later.

It's kind of scary that there are people out there now who have been invested in bitcoin for almost a year, and are still underwater. Doesn't that tell you that we've been way overvalued in 2014?

He's given up hope. It's official, bottom is in! Time to buy! 

Personally, I'm glad to see this correction. It was badly needed to shake out the weak hands, and I'm confident that we'll be going up from here.

Sell in May and go away. This is basic advice every investor knows. They will come back in November, as usual.

Bitcoin is going nowhere but up. If you don't believe that, then you don't belong here and we don't want you here.

No, we still have two weeks at the current price level until that happens. But if we do... it's game over, I'm afraid 

Bitcoin, the future of black market trade!

Because, you know, it makes perfect sense to use an "Internet cash" that can be traced to your IP address by authorities with little trouble. And then, buy drugs online and provide your post address to a central party, where thereby it can be easily collected once the site is busted.  

What do you guys think the price on Halloween will be? I'm still thinking $800, at least.

lmao. This must be a bot. Who else would be sad enough to post -- essentially -- the exact same thing every day for months on end?

Some of you guys will never learn. When the price rises 10% over a couple days, you need to ask yourselves, "has anything happened to justify this increase?" If the answer is no, then it's a pump and dump. Every previous rally was triggered by some type of event or sentiment. Chinese exchanges opening, the US government softening its position, or major retail adoption. But none of those matter anymore.

What's happening now that could possibility rally people to buy bitcoin? Increased competition from Apple Pay? More regulations incoming? So... basically nothing.

I wouldn't even stand on the sidelines. Wait in the bleachers, or better yet, exit the stadium completely, get in your car, and drive home. Just when you think you know which direction it's going, it will burn you. I'd advise you all to take a safer investment, until a positive trend can be confirmed. Because it's going to be a while...

I heard we were in the early adopter phase last year when price was $1,000/BTC, so does that mean we've regressed back to the super early, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak in mom and dad's garage phase?

Is Bitchick still in India? She has the right idea. We should all be volunteering in India, Africa, and other poor areas of the world and teaching them how to set up bitcoin wallets on their home personal computers.

Why? Poor people are going to be the main force behind bitcoin, it's all just a matter of education.

If they don't have a computer at home, they can use the Internet cafe to set up their wallet with blockchain. Just let them know that they need 2FA, and they should use an email account separate from their regular account. And use a password that's complex, with number, symbols, and letters, that isn't in the dictionary. They can use their dumb phone for the 2FA.

Also, they should run an antivirus scan on the Internet cafe computer with at least three or four different vendors to ensure it's safe before each usage. There could be a keylogger or a browser session hijacker. Also don't allow .dat file backups to the e-mail address, just in case. As long as they follow this, they'll be good to go. It's really not that difficult, and much easier than using a bank or storing your savings in a coffee can.

Probably banned in the great bear purge of August/September.

She was telling everyone that there would be a long term bear market this spring, at the time that everyone and their mom was calling for $5,000/BTC+ by end of year. She took a ton of flak for it, and was probably banned, given the echo chamber nature of this place.

Come on guys, he only said "probably", so he's totally justified in being thousands of dollars off in his prediction  

I luv this place. So many funny people!

The poor "unbanked" of the third world don't have spare money, and that's why they live in shanty towns and mud huts. If there ever is a time that they have any, they want to hold it and keep it safe, not convert it to some public key somewhere in the cloud. And where do they store the private key on the PC or smart phone that they don't own?

Oh, but they can print a paper wallet. Good luck telling a poor person with little to no education that he or she can give their money to a machine somewhere, pay a fee, and get a piece of paper in return, after presenting their photo ID (which they probably don't have) and other personal info. They'd probably just look at you with a blank look on their face, walk away, and tell their friends later about the crazy white guy who tried to swindle their money away.

But never fear, Microsoft has accepted dollars for bitcoins with bitpay! Bitcoin is saved!  

It would take a special kind of stupid to look at bitcoin right now and say, "This is a good time to buy." Price is still falling, floor is not in, and there are no prospects going forward. The ETF is a false hope, nobody out there cares that there's a new way to buy a failing asset. I used to defend bitcoin, but now I'm shocked that we're still at $330. I think we will be <$100 soon.

Even BitChick has stopped posting for two weeks now. If she's lost faith in bitcoin, then I think it really is over.

You would need to be drunk to invest in bitcoin at this point, after all the thrashing it's taken in the past year. Interest from the public is lukewarm, and it's failing to present any user case scenarios for success in 2015 either.

I didn't have any coins on MtGox. Fortunately I could see that they were the worst in a sorry lot of unregulated exchanges, and I steered clear. But it's a valid point nonetheless; bitcoin is inherently risky to hold compared with fiat or precious metals. You hold the risk of hardware failure, theft/hacks, natural disaster, and there's plenty of third party risk just by keeping your coins on an exchange. I've never been the victim of theft, but that's because I was careful to the point of paranoia. Who the hell -- aside from some bitcoin nutters -- wants to live like that?

And that's precisely why interest from the public is lukewarm. It's hardly got anything to offer anyone outside this forum community of hobbyists and cultists.

Do you even bitcoin, bro? There have been dozens of exchanges around the globe for at least a couple years.

I'd give a 90% chance that we'll be breaking below $300 by the end of this week. Each day that goes by as the market is flooded by new blocks, and we lack any major news, is simply creating more downward pressure.

So many high profile attacks these past few weeks involving Sony, and outages with Xbox Live, etc.

People hear bitcoin and "digital" currency. Having a website go down for a few hours is one thing... but nobody is going to be crazy enough to entrust the protocol to their savings. And the fact that value has been dropping all year doesn't help.

It's really incredible that we're still over $300 at this point. It's not going to last for long.

Whether a private key can ever be brute forced or not, is a moot point. There are a dozen other avenues which are more effective at separating users from their wallets. I have seen security consultants by trade report on bitcoin that their private keys were hijacked from their PCs or other means, so just imagine how the average person on the street would feel about bitcoin?

Network security is a mysterious, scary thing for most people (and if it doesn't concern you, then you're just being naive). The world isn't ready to entrust their fortunes to a peerless digital protocol. And you've got to wonder if they ever will be.

Why this like a football game for people like you? "The bulls vs the bears".

I just trying to provide quality analysis of the current situation, and given lukewarm public interest, along with high profile cyber attacks... I think there is a lot of unease about security related issues with the general public and net denizens, some of which will surely spill over to the sentiment around bitcoin, which is a completely digital protocol for people's ***MONEY*** and works somewhere in the cloud, in some mysterious way (general people have no idea how it works, and simply need to have faith their money is safe since it's not backed by any government or institution).

Think about all of that, and the weak bid side orders, it seems very likely that we'll break $300 soon. By end of the week is still very possible, IMO.

What happened to bitchick? Did she finally give up and sell her holdings?

Even Rpitelia is gone now and pushing (unsuccessfully) some scam altcoin. 2014 really fell flat, didn't it? I doubt 2015 is going to be any better.

Let me guess, I was just "lucky" again?  

Mt Gox, the biggest exchange in the history of bitcoin, closed and stole acount holder funds, and now it appears that Stamp -- less than one year later -- is experiencing some significant problems of its own.

Merchant adoption means very little any more. Companies adopt bitcoin and the price barely moves.

It would take nothing short of a sovereign country adopting bitcoin as its national currency to cause a spike in price again. Face it, the 2010-2013 bull market is over and the bubble is now deflating. There's very little to get excited about anymore in the world of bitcoin. Expect the price to continue falling.

Thanks for that well reasoned rebuttal. Expect nothing less from bitcoin bulltards.

Save your pity for yourself, fool. Welcome to my ignore list. I think we need to restrict access to noobs before they're allowed to post on the speculation forum.

What does? The fact that there hasn't been a price crash in three whole days?

That's because all those people are maroons who can't see further than two days +/-. So in other words, the majority of posters on this forum.

Yup, < $300 bitcoins will never happen! Right bulltards?

I thought 2013 was the last time to buy for less than $1,000?

Remember, this is a "revolutionary" technology that dropped 80% in value over the past year. Funny that I can't remember any other revolutionary technologies over the past 100 years that plummeted in value 6 years after their invention, and after pretty much everyone knew about them and still decided not to use them.

I'm not "leveraged" in anything. Not as dumb as you bulltards to entrust a third party bitcoin exchange based out of some backwater third world country to my assets. I invest in real markets and companies with actual value.

You're right, speculative bubbles usually rise dramatically before they pop. That means it's a revolutionary technology? Were Dutch tulips also a radical new technology and sound investment, because they rose thousands of percent in value before they crashed?  

Invest in low cost index funds, just as Mr. Buffet recommends. But of course, Warren Buffet is an idiot and doesn't know anything about money, according to this forum.  

That's nice, if there is still someone out there who is dumb enough to not see through bitcoin as a pump and dump scheme, then printing tulips right on the physical coins themselves might be enough to get through to them!

It's true what they say, history does repeat itself. "But this time is different" right?

Enjoy your Internet funbux. The way things are moving, in won't be long before all exchanges are closed up and you'll need to beg people on the street to buy them from you.

I can watch comedies on television or movies, but they rarely make me laugh. This forum, however, is an endless supply of laughter. I show it to my friends sometimes who are economics grad students and we roll around on the floor laughing sometimes so hard I think I'm going to pass out!

I'm in a happy relationship with my hot japanese girlfriend. bitcoin is a laughing stock in japan, and they can't get enough of these forums either. I showed it to her family and they said, "there are still people buying these?" they couldn't believe it!

The biggest bitcoin exchange and they can't even keep their bitcoins secured. Well, that's reassuring.

I know ya'll jealous. Here's a tip. Invest less money in stupid pump and dump schemes, use more money on real investments, and get out of your mom's basement and learn about useful stuff (ie. not the blockchain). You too can meet girls and maybe one day even build some wealth!

As I told you, invest in low cost index funds and stay away from pump and dump schemes like bitcoin. There's no big secret to building wealth, it just takes patience and some hard work... ie, opposite of the dreams of every get rich quick bitcoin simpleton.

My opinion would change if there was a valid use case scenario developed for bitcoin, other than drugs or online gambling. Since none are emerging, any market movements we see from this point out are just moments of irrational exuberance by bit-tards and small pauses on the way down to zero. So no, there will be no further ATH. We're essentially a large pump and dump scheme at this point, so avoid any false hopes.

If you must invest any, I wouldn't put any more in than I'd spend at the casino in one night, because odds are you will lose all or most of it. The way things are moving now, you'd be lucky if there is still a legitimate exchange around next year that will cash out your bitcoin for you. Until 2013 , there was at least positive momentum behind bitcoin so you could kind of make a case for investment. Merchant adoption was just beginning, etc. But now it's clear that consumers aren't interested, and recent hacks and the 80% drop in value shows what a terrible store of value it is.

So essentially, it's useless unless some miracle application arises (and there are no signs at all that this will happen so investing now is no better than a degenerate form of gambling).

Didn't you hear the wonderful news Shroomskit? There's cheap coinz™ abound, and even more coming soon!

lmao. good one. I was in Japan during the MtGox bankruptcy, and actually saw Mark waddling to his office with his dessert like coffee drink one morning. It took everything I had to not burst out laughing. As you can imagine, he didn't stick around for long to talk.

There's been all this awesome publicity lately about scams, criminals, broken exchanges and people losing fortunes... and price still isn't rising? I thought this was supposed to attract new users who want to "be their own bank"! 

Link please!

Trolls are people who refused to dump their money into a get rich quick scheme and tried to warn you all for months, but were mocked and ignored. Everyone makes a choice, but clowns like you made the wrong choice. And now you're just pissed off and looking for someone to blame.

Hopefully in the future you'll make the correct choice of investing in stocks and bonds in order to accumulate slow steady wealth, instead of magic beans.

"No good information anymore" That would seem to imply that information during 2014 was... good?



For the first time, information is great! No longer do we have all the bulltards drawing lines on graphs and trying to convince everyone that we'll be back up to $1,000 soon. No longer do we have shills like reptilia tell us about the exponential trend line, or mental midgets posting photos of rocket ships and trains every day. "To the moon!"  

Bitcoin is finally being exposed as a pump and dump, and people are beginning to realize that it's in the final stages before falling into obscurity. Accept that fact, and save yourself from further butt hurt.

Bitcoin heading for final capitulation! Let me guess, this is all the trolls' fault, right?

Look out, the mods are deleting bearish posts again. Things are getting desperate!

They tried to warn you by spelling it out word for word and letter by letter why the bitcoin bubble of 2010-2013 has burst... must be a bitter pill to swallow for the bulls to acknowledge -- to themselves -- that they've been wrong.

The most secure currency ever, that even the largest and most powerful exchange can't seem to keep protected. If any of you still think mainstream, "regular" people would ever want to put their money into bitcoin, you must seriously have brain damage.

Another butt hurt bitcoin "investor" who should have listened to the wise advise provided for free from the likes of falllling and other posters. Didn't listen, and now you call them all "trolls". Tough break. At least this is a valuable lesson to some of you to not listen to various crazy people on message boards and avoid magic bean "get rich quick" investments.

It's going to be a tense night in a lot of houses this week. "Honey, you know about that bitcoin investment I made last year? Yeah, that's right, the one I told you that would allow us to retire by 35. Well..."

Litecoin is at an all time low! $1.12 USD at this moment. Just another sign that crypto is on its death bed.

$165 in Stamp... seriously... if you're still holding bitcoins, you really need to get out soon unless you don't care about losing it all. At some point, the exchanges will probably halt trading and you'll find yourself in a position where you essentially can no longer withdrawal your coins for cash anymore.

As far back as bitcoinwisdom charts go. Maybe it was lower around its inception, but still... very, very bad right now.

That was a real nice recovery you had there! Now back to the slow and steady drop to oblivion.

I thought bitcoin was about freedom... but you can't even tolerate some criticism of your Internet funbux? I guess some the trolls have hit a nerve, huh?

For everyone who bought bitcoins in the past 14 months, I'm sorry for your loss.

And Wall Street will be entering the market any day now™

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your point being...?

My index funds are on course to rise in value another $3,000 today. How are your bitcoin holdings doing, everyone? Don't all answer at once, please. 

All the smart money is buying BTCeanies. According to my market research, hunka hunka bearnin' love BTCeanie has increased in value from $4 to $6 in the past year. That's a 50% increase and makes it one of the best performing assets of 2014!

The fundamentals™ of BTCeanies are still strong, my friend. BTCeanies are still stuffed with plastic pellets, and each one is produced in limited quantities by Ty Warner Inc. What we see now is all the weak hands being shaken out. So this is the best time to buy.

My investment portfolio is doing even better than expected, I'm up thousands of $$ today.

How's that bitcoin investment working out for all of you? Just wondering, because from here, it doesn't seem to be going too well.

Sorry, but I don't make random bets with people online, which is probably one of the reasons that I have accumulated a large amount of wealth over the past several years and you bitcoiners are mostly underwater with your digital funbux.

Not that I believe your 50 bitcoins will be worth jack shit in a year, but why bother? I make good investments, and bitcoiners make bad ones. All I need to do is keep doing what I've been doing and I make money. That's much simpler than dealing with some online escrow service.

Speaking of Reptilian, I wonder where his long term value chart is at now? For some reason, he stopped updating it months ago... 

I can leave this forum for weeks, come back, and it's the same exact people hyping each other up about bitcoin. You'd think if it was such an awesome and useful technology, there would be more people here? Instead, they just watch from the sidelines and laugh at all the maroons here as they lose more and more money on their digital fun bucks.