All posts made by JustBetweenUs in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 6903946 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 23, 2014, 11:34:23 PM


Building Quality Markets for Digital Currencies

A secure, state-of-the-art exchange platform built by Wall Street veterans for transacting digital currencies

Powered by a platform deployed by some of Wall Street's largest proprietary trading firms and institutions

The exchange central book matches orders based on price/time priority. No fees to transfer money in and out.

two-factor authentication, cold storage of crypto-currency, multi-tiered multi-firewall architecture

Forget about centralized exchanges, problems with legislation or trust are always going to come up. Nxt has a decentralized Asset Exchange running, and this is surely the future.



2. Post 7566648 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Quote from: Raystonn on June 28, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I've been doing some analysis on the latest craze, Proof of Stake coins like NXT.  On the surface they look like a good deal, with innovation and some great ideas.  But they appear to suffer from one very fatal flaw.  Proof of Work coins are backed by energy.  Those providing the Proof (miners here) must choose one coin on which to spend their energy to provide it.  Proof of Stake coins have no such protection.

You cannot double-spend your energy and use it to mine multiple Proof of Work coins (e.g. X Bitcoin and Y Litecoin mined with the same energy expenditure as mining just X Bitcoin or just Y Litecoin).  New coins may pop up, but they must fight over the limited supply of miners/energy.  This fight over a limited resource ensures you will not see an infinite number of Proof of Work coins pop up running in parallel.  This backing by energy ensures we will not see inflation through endless chains of PoW coins.

Proof of Stake coins do not have this protection.  Those providing the Proof of Stake, the holders of coins, can freely hold an unlimited number of different PoS currencies, rather than being forced to choose to mine only one with each unit of electricity.  Each PoS coin causes no pressure on the others.  Thus, an infinite number of PoS coins can flood the market.  With no limited resource (miners/energy) being competed for by all the PoS coins, the value that investors look to store in such coins will be diluted more and more over time as new PoS coins are created.  This makes PoS coins worthless as a store of value, regardless of the individual characteristics of any particular PoS coin.

In short, Satoshi was clearly thinking long-term with Bitcoin, or he got very, very lucky.  Either way, we are all very much in his debt for getting it so right on the first go.



Well if you're talking about NXT in particular it's aimed to be more of a platform than a currency, so if it reaches his potential no other "coin" can just popup and steal market cap from NXT like that, since at his peak its value will lie from his network. Take for example facebook, everyone could potentially replace them, yet no one will.

But I get your point. Satoshi's PoW was brillant.



3. Post 7672793 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: gizmoh on July 04, 2014, 11:51:14 AM
Bye Bye Institutional Money  

http://www.coindesk.com/eba-financial-institutions-avoid-bitcoin-pending-regulation/

Will SEC follow EBA and reject Winkle's ETF  Roll Eyes



from this article:

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It continues: “This two-pronged approach will allow virtual currencies schemes to develop outside the financial services sector and will also allow financial institutions to maintain a current account relationship with businesses active in the field of virtual currencies."

This is like very good.



4. Post 7686543 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: Spaceman_Spiff on July 05, 2014, 10:57:14 AM
holy LTC pumps :O
Okcoin going nuts

This thread for Bitcoin not LTC, why you posted this here.

Let's face it, this thread is a hangout lounge / bar for general discussions, with a heavy focus on bitcoin trading.

By the way, does anybody know a place where I could short shitcoins like DOGE and other smaller alts ?

I'm interested in shorting LTC and DOGE too. Let me know if you find something.



5. Post 7720968 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.57h):

Quote from: gizmoh on July 07, 2014, 05:02:19 PM
Sorry to break the party, but there is too much optimism/bulls in here.. Roll Eyes
Terrorist using BTC = Bad Image for Btc.
It will be a good excuse to impose stiff control by govts/banks on VC exchanges/services.


More bad news for Goxers:
www.coindesk.com/leak-documents-suggest-mt-gox-paid-200k-parent-company-may/

In other alarming news, the documents, if genuine, reveal Mt. Gox’s remaining funds total only $7.6m – significantly less than the $38m in assets claimed in its bankruptcy application.


can you link to this terrorist connection thing?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/global-jihad-could-funded-bitcoin-105333920.html

The US Department of Defense is currently conducting a counter-terrorism investigation of virtual currencies like bitcoin.

More lows to come i'm afraid.



In other news, 99.99% of all terrorists are funded by dollars.

Weak, weak FUD.



6. Post 7766035 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.58h):

I love the sounds of panic.

It is the only time when I know without a doubt that I should be buying.



7. Post 7973233 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.00h):

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 22, 2014, 05:52:20 PM
The listing of COIN will be a liquidity event like no other in BTC history.  The most extreme bubble in BTC history is the 53x ramp from April to June of 2011.  It would be unreasonable not to consider that the impact of COIN might exceed that event, therefore.  A 60x ramp would achieve that by a significant margin, without breaking new territory.  

Let's suppose that there is a 50% chance of COIN being listed, and an 90% chance of a multi-month topping formation to ensue, and a 10% chance of that formation, conditional upon its formation, breaking a new scale record.  I consider all of these estimates to be low-ball.  The resulting contribution to the aggregate value of a bitcoin in Q1 2015, over all scenarios, is 920; a 25 bp/diem return means that if all other scenarios were flat zeros, even so your expection is net 9 bp/diem positive carry against current BFX margin rates.  

If the stopping time of a 13% margin call at 620 is less that sqrt((920-620)*9/25) ~ 10 times the duration of the scenario (I take at 160 days), then there is a net negative expectation.  I will spare you the stopping time calculation (a bunch of stochastic integration very ill-suited to a forum post).  It is much less.  In other words, I consider provable given a few reasonable and not very limiting scenario assumptions (although not here proven even conditionally) the (perhaps obvious) conclusion that even the most eggregiously optimistic scenario cannot justify the risk of full margined carry, unless you can get substantially better rates (or higher leverage limits) elsewhere.

Holding, on the other hand, is a no-brainer.  

Intermediate leverage falls between, and I have yet to calculate the optimum, which depends on better scenario coverage for its confidence margins.  It really requires a numerical approximation to do it on a principled basis with reasonable margins, at my level of understanding.  I couldn't expect to produce a closed form for the general case in the time one could allow to do a doctoral dissertation, so it's just not practical for me to try.

TL;DR: HODL




Your posts tend to be fairly inspirational regarding the likely bullish direction of BTC prices.

Currently, I hold more than 100BTC, and I have been very tempted to double or triple my BTC holdings; however, I am a little nervous about such a decision.

I have around $400k in tax deferred index fund accounts (stock market, bonds and govt bonds), and it would be possible for me to make a one-time withdrawal of part or all of those funds, without any tax penalty - though it would likely be a taxable event, unless the funds are rolled into another tax-deferred vehicle.  I have been considering withdrawing $150k to put towards BTC... but then I would definitely be less diversified in my total investment package, and I would have a larger percentage of my quasi-liquid assets invested in BTC....   

I am pretty confident about the direction of BTC going up rather than down, yet I remain a little uneasy about making such a leap with my quasi-liquid assets and to take such a step.

Over the years, my various tax deferred index fund investments have earned an average of a bit over 6% per year, even though they have been doing better in the last few years - especially after recovering from the 30% decline in 2007.  For example, these tax deferred index fund investments they earned more than 21% in 2013, and about 6% in the first half of 2014.   

Nonetheless, I continue to lose confidence in holding these various quasi-liquid assets in USD, in part b/c I have additional other less liquid assets in USD, as well.  Additionally, as many participants in BTC believe that there are a considerable number of impending problems with USD, especially given the intense levels of quantitative easing that had been occurring, since about 2008 and seemingly ongoing. 

It seems that if there are future failures with USD, then those USD failures will be inversely related to BTC appreciation in value.   In this regard, it seems more likely that BTC values will double or triple (or even appreciate greater 10 to 100x) in the next few years, rather than my index funds, which could double (2x) in 10-15 years, if I am lucky.

I understand that ultimately these remain personal investment choices that each person has to make based on his/her own risk tolerances, assets and investment timeline.















Get rid of that worthless fiat. Only keep what you plan on spending. You know it is the right thing to do, you explained it pretty well yourself in your second-to-last paragraph.



8. Post 8331347 (copy this link) (by JustBetweenUs) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.04h):

Quote from: hd060053 on August 13, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
so who sold at 525 ? hope u learned ur lesson  Grin

Damn... I knew I shouldn't have listened to fonzie.

lolol