Actually some people pay tax on their gains on
BTC , interesting

Sometimes is indeed nice to live in a messed up country , just like mine. (And still be part of the EU).
Bulgaria?
Romania

. But you were very close.
The two additions to the EU I could not for the light of me comprehend

From my point of view , the people who allowed .ro to join the EU were pretty stupid , with a lot of bone in their heads.
But , it's too late for that

.
Still if you want a heaven for bitcoin taxation and you can live with the dogs,holes,whores, and so on ..romania is for you

Thanks for the information but what's tax haven about it? According to
http://www.ey.com/GL/en/Services/Tax/The-worldwide-personal-tax-guide---XMLQS?preview&XmlUrl=/ec1mages/taxguides/TGE-2013/TGE-RO.xml there is a 16% capital gains tax.
Because in real life nobody is paying anything.
I've been working for freelance and GAF for years , I've done a lot of affiliate programs and I sold a few bitcoins also but I haven't payed a single penny.
And so did a lot of my friends who were involved in website promotions and affiliate programs (adbrite adwords etc).
And to this date nobody bothered to look into this.
Keep your bank transactions low , don't exceed 1000$/time or 10000$ a year with the same bank and nobody will check it out.
And if you dare to pay... you're in a world of pain as a lot of the guys at the tax office don't have a clue about those kind of earnings.
Two years ago i tried to get 'legal" and to declare all my income. I spent days after days waiting in queues sometimes for hours and speaking with idiots who had no clue until.. I go fed up with it.
I can't even imagine going there are asking about taxation on
BTC , they will probably throw me out thinking i'm joking
And of course, an idiot is all it takes to ruin a country's image. Congratulations Niothor, you are alot better than all the whores and the dogs and the holes (btw, where the F. do you live? I have never been able to find all three 'cataclysms' together) at discrediting Romania. It's always the same, the bad deeds of one overwrite the good of many. Please go back to troll the Bitleu forum or continue washing some spanish or italian toilet, Romania is obviously too classy for you.
That would be nice. But that's not the way of the world or life on it. Life's not fair and not everyone gets what they deserve.
I'm sorry if you think that life hasn't been fair to you. I see the world in a different spiritual perspective, where our karma reaches beyond our present lives.
Here's your opening, BitChick. Finally, someone, if you count Pumpkinhead as someone, wants to talk about religion.
I guess I fell asleep too early.

Here is a verse for you all: Ecclesiastes 7:16
Do not be over righteous, neither be over wise-- why destroy yourself? That is something to ponder. I really like that verse. Especially because I grew up in a somewhat legalistic environment and realized early on that perfection is impossible to attain.
Basically, most religions are about karma or doing good to earn something. Fortunately, following Christ is not about that. It is about realizing we can never be righteous on our own and letting Him change us from the inside out.
I will stop now though.

This really saddens me because I thought you were a balanced and open minded individual. Unfortunately, even if you don't belong in the same class of idiots like igorr, mah87 and co., I will have to put you on ignore. There are VERY few things worse in this world than overzealous religious cultists.
That would be nice. But that's not the way of the world or life on it. Life's not fair and not everyone gets what they deserve.
I'm sorry if you think that life hasn't been fair to you. I see the world in a different spiritual perspective, where our karma reaches beyond our present lives.
Here's your opening, BitChick. Finally, someone, if you count Pumpkinhead as someone, wants to talk about religion.
I guess I fell asleep too early.

Here is a verse for you all: Ecclesiastes 7:16
Do not be over righteous, neither be over wise-- why destroy yourself? That is something to ponder. I really like that verse. Especially because I grew up in a somewhat legalistic environment and realized early on that perfection is impossible to attain.
Basically, most religions are about karma or doing good to earn something. Fortunately, following Christ is not about that. It is about realizing we can never be righteous on our own and letting Him change us from the inside out.
I will stop now though.

This really saddens me because I thought you were a balanced and open minded individual. Unfortunately, even if you don't belong in the same class of idiots like igorr, mah87 and co., I will have to put you on ignore. There are VERY few things worse in this world than overzealous religious cultists.
Balaced haha. She and her husband are complete wackos.
. "Wackos"

You may not agree with them but they have not said anything that puts them in that category.
I take it you are religious as well?
Let us be clear on something. I do not care what religion Bitchick is, for all I know and care she could worship the ancient aliens with her husband. Everybody does whatever he/she wants with the life they have, but the moment you try to impose your beliefs and life style and "Truth" to me then we have a problem. And to start your "religion ignition argument" with "other religions are all about personal gain while only christianity is the cool choice because jesus" just brings back memories of all the bad things that ever happened because of ill understood religion and all the crimes conducted in the name of god. Any god. Shame on me for not noticing that about Bitchick earlier.
And about shroomsy, well, I know he's on many ignore lists but I have always appreciated a person that can believe that he believes in nothing. It's probably the hardest form of religion. Problem is he just conveys it wrong.
What if it breaks?

What are the
generally accepted long term channels at the moment?
It is generally accepted that you should
never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is
multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.
- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)
- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.
this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.
What the hell happened to you too? You used to have spot on predictions and gut feelings and I enjoyed reading most of your comments. Now you're just following risto to discredit him any occasion you get. I get it, you strongly dislike the man, and I'm not fond of him either but now you sound like the dark crypto offspring of Bitchick and Stolfi. One wants to save me from my sins, the other wants to save the world from itself. You wanna save people from... idiots with bitcoin bought castles?
What if it breaks?

What are the
generally accepted long term channels at the moment?
It is generally accepted that you should
never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is
multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.
- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)
- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.
this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.
What the hell happened to you too? You used to have spot on predictions and gut feelings and I enjoyed reading most of your comments. Now you're just following risto to discredit him any occasion you get. I get it, you strongly dislike the man, and I'm not fond of him either but now you sound like the dark crypto offspring of Bitchick and Stolfi. One wants to save me from my sins, the other wants to save the world from itself. You wanna save people from... idiots with bitcoin bought castles?
I just had enough of the stupidity of some and the malicious and scammish behavior of others (there is plenty of them here around), and I see that most of people here don't agree with me, they get even offended because I crash their dreams sometimes,
so this will be my last comment in this forum, enjoy all of you
Ah, c'mon. If they put up with me (a female and what many think is a too "religious" one at that) we can all certainly handle anything you say. Just hit ignore and move on.

(granted I don't agree with your comment to Risto. I appreciate the wisdom he has offered to us all. Of course, even he doesn't force anyone to listen or even agree with him.)
The evil part of his personality has gone to sleep now.
Shush!, and give him a silent prayer.
With all due respect I prefer mmitech over you

even when in evil mode he still has my respect. I just don;t get these hormonal mood swings (not just his, many people that I loved to read are going through strange changes right now in the forum). It strongly feels like a new bear market here and- no matter where the bitcoin price swings to- we are getting crankier every day.