All posts made by valta4065 in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 13762014 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
This is SERIOUSLY stable
Books order are empty. And so is my pocket
Just hope investors will come back once the size problem is dealt with.
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Post 13762263 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
This is SERIOUSLY stable
Books order are empty. And so is my pocket
Just hope investors will come back once the size problem is dealt with.
Block size debate will rumble on & on for a while yet. Don't expect it to be resolved quickly. Stability in the price is good, it makes bitcoin more attractive to noob investors.
Let's hope it isn't too long before the next leg up, with or without news on block size.
Think so?
I'm a bit new to all this but it seemed not to be the most complicated evolution of the code. Why should it take lots of time?
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Post 13762418 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
This is SERIOUSLY stable
Books order are empty. And so is my pocket
Just hope investors will come back once the size problem is dealt with.
Block size debate will rumble on & on for a while yet. Don't expect it to be resolved quickly. Stability in the price is good, it makes bitcoin more attractive to noob investors.
Let's hope it isn't too long before the next leg up, with or without news on block size.
Think so?
I'm a bit new to all this but it seemed not to be the most complicated evolution of the code. Why should it take lots of time?
Consensus my friend.
Lots of bull shit politics.
Yeah ok but it can go really quick and smooth if everyone reach a consensus.
Which means btc is relatively safe cause if price drops too much and frighten miners, the consensus will be reached much faster I think xD
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Post 13762956 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Good luck to them trying to find a way of enforcing that
Just like in the US they would focus on the exchanges.
What? Btc exchange are forbidden in the US? Then how am I buying and selling my btc?
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Post 13763082 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Good luck to them trying to find a way of enforcing that
Just like in the US they would focus on the exchanges.
What? Btc exchange are forbidden in the US? Then how am I buying and selling my btc?
The EC are concerned about the perceived
anonymity of BTC transactions. US exchanges have AML/KYC measures in place - transactions aren't anonymous.
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The plan therefore calls for virtual currency exchange platforms to be brought under the scope of the European Anti-Money Laundering Directive, which would mean exchanges would have to report just who used their services and when they were used. The Action Plan says The Commission will also examine whether to include virtual currency 'wallet providers'.
Ah ok.
Well I don't know how they would want to do it. Yes exchanges are not anonymous, but you don't use exchange if you want anonymous. You pays and receive in btc and if you want cash you go through local bitcoin
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Post 13763229 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
It will still have some dips until they come up with a positive news that will make investors to come back to bitcoin from altcoins like ETH.
I don't understand why ETH has such a success right now.
What makes it really different from btc? I mean should I worry and decide to go on ethtalk.org? xD
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Post 13763538 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Good luck to them trying to find a way of enforcing that
Just like in the US they would focus on the exchanges.
What? Btc exchange are forbidden in the US? Then how am I buying and selling my btc?
The EC are concerned about the perceived
anonymity of BTC transactions. US exchanges have AML/KYC measures in place - transactions aren't anonymous.
Edit:
The plan therefore calls for virtual currency exchange platforms to be brought under the scope of the European Anti-Money Laundering Directive, which would mean exchanges would have to report just who used their services and when they were used. The Action Plan says The Commission will also examine whether to include virtual currency 'wallet providers'.
Ah ok.
Well I don't know how they would want to do it. Yes exchanges are not anonymous, but you don't use exchange if you want anonymous. You pays and receive in btc and if you want cash you go through local bitcoin
Yeah, this is all kinda expected, it's really bringing exchanges in Europe in-line with exchanges in the US. And, as you say, people can still use localbitcoin or exchanges outside the EU (and the US). I suspect, though, that this is just the beginning (in the EU) - localbitcoin is already under attack in the US (Burt W here on BCT, for example) and I imagine it's just a matter of time before the EU clamp down on it because TERRORISM. AND DRUGS. And because
the 500 note was feelin unloved.Bah, we already know that using exchange is not anonymous. Most exchange ask for some ID proof already, at least to exchange significant amounts!
It won't even hurt bitcoin
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Post 13771293 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
don't forget everyone! BITCOIN CANNOT SCALE! until it does then it still doesn't ... its only been EIGHT MONTHS of arguing over it. #GimpedCoin
Technological progress actually ...ensures that bitcoin not only can scale, but will indeed scale. It's not a matter of if, only a matter of when.
1995 = Pentium 75-100MHz / 8-16MB ram / 1-2GB disks / 14.4kbps - 128kbps connections.
2015 = 4-8core CPUs at 4 GHz / 4-16GB ram / 1-4 TB disks / home connections in the mbps to gbps (for fiber).
Everything has gone upwards like 1000x in 20 years. Processing power, memory, storage, network connections etc. And I'm not counting processing breakthroughs in GPU power or storage speedup like SSDs.
If the trend continues, by 2035 the technology will allow >5000tx/sec, without even improving the software. If the software gets improved (and it constantly is getting scaling improvements), we are talking multiple that - so we'll be seeing VISA-like capabilities way before the 2030's.
Bitcoin is ...doomed to scale, except if some catastrophic failure of our civilization destroys the IT industry. And we won't have to wait for 2035 for scaling, that's just a number. There are incremental steps in hardware and network capabilities all the time. We just want too much, too fast. And that's good because scaling solutions will have to be devised faster. Although one thing will never be overcome: The necessity for fees. It is impossible to have near-zero cost txs AND protect the network for abuse at the same time.
Free txs = attack vector possible for free.
Near free txs = attack vector possible for peanuts.
Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...
But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...
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Post 13771601 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
don't forget everyone! BITCOIN CANNOT SCALE! until it does then it still doesn't ... its only been EIGHT MONTHS of arguing over it. #GimpedCoin
Technological progress actually ...ensures that bitcoin not only can scale, but will indeed scale. It's not a matter of if, only a matter of when.
1995 = Pentium 75-100MHz / 8-16MB ram / 1-2GB disks / 14.4kbps - 128kbps connections.
2015 = 4-8core CPUs at 4 GHz / 4-16GB ram / 1-4 TB disks / home connections in the mbps to gbps (for fiber).
Everything has gone upwards like 1000x in 20 years. Processing power, memory, storage, network connections etc. And I'm not counting processing breakthroughs in GPU power or storage speedup like SSDs.
If the trend continues, by 2035 the technology will allow >5000tx/sec, without even improving the software. If the software gets improved (and it constantly is getting scaling improvements), we are talking multiple that - so we'll be seeing VISA-like capabilities way before the 2030's.
Bitcoin is ...doomed to scale, except if some catastrophic failure of our civilization destroys the IT industry. And we won't have to wait for 2035 for scaling, that's just a number. There are incremental steps in hardware and network capabilities all the time. We just want too much, too fast. And that's good because scaling solutions will have to be devised faster. Although one thing will never be overcome: The necessity for fees. It is impossible to have near-zero cost txs AND protect the network for abuse at the same time.
Free txs = attack vector possible for free.
Near free txs = attack vector possible for peanuts.
Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...
But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...
Moore's Law is a straw man - the previous poster was talking about general technological progress, not the much more narrow Moore's Law. A limit to component density didn't prevent technological development in the centuries before Gordon Moore, and there's no reason to suspect it'll stop simply when integrated circuitry reaches a physical limit.
Well I understand your point but I'd say it's totally flawed.
It's not because it had happened that it will actually happen
I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if in 10 years scientists would explain that we reached a point in IT where development can't really go any further. You're still limited to physic, and if you can't make smaller elements... What can you do?
Oh maybe in only 3 days someone is going to come with a revolution in science and explain something that will allow us to use a 1000times better internet/PC. But it's not because it has, and it can, that it will
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Post 13773272 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...
But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...
Moore's Law is a straw man - the previous poster was talking about general technological progress, not the much more narrow Moore's Law. A limit to component density didn't prevent technological development in the centuries before Gordon Moore, and there's no reason to suspect it'll stop simply when integrated circuitry reaches a physical limit.
Well I understand your point but I'd say it's totally flawed.
It's not because it had happened that it will actually happen
I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if in 10 years scientists would explain that we reached a point in IT where development can't really go any further.
You're still limited to physic, and if you can't make smaller elements... What can you do?Oh maybe in only 3 days someone is going to come with a revolution in science and explain something that will allow us to use a 1000times better internet/PC. But it's not because it has, and it can, that it will
Well... you can:
- Connect multiple elements together.
- Continue to improve elements in ways that don't rely on component density, or even reduce the number of components.
- Develop better ways to connect elements.
A revolution in 3 days isn't necessary. Technological developments that speed our processing power and increase our bandwidth happen all the time, and are not tightly coupled to component density. They tend not to yield 1000x improvements, but they compound together over time to achieve something pretty spectacular. The shift from CISC to RISC CPUs, for example, reduced the complexity of CPUs (and hence the number of components they required), allowing more powerful computers - it wasn't necessary for component density to increase, because the number of components was *decreasing*. The shift from HDDs to SSDs has increased bandwidth. Wi-fi gets faster with every generation, and that's (broadly) using tech that's familiar to radio engineers from back in the day.
I'm not saying that Moore's Law didn't happen, that it was a bad thing, or anything like that. What I'm saying is that reaching a limit to the number of components we can put on a piece of silicon is not going to bring an end to technological development in general, or to IT in particular. Bitcoin is safe.
I'd say that you're rather right.
But being confident in the increase of IT performances doesn't mean it HAS to happen ^^
Bitcoin SHOULD be safe. But it doesn't need an apocalypse in IT sector to be endangered, just a freezing in evolution
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Post 13781999 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Oh yeas! We broke the 380 again! So glad to see that!
I know it's not much and doesn't mean a lot but I'm happy to see a small rise. Just because I found the down-only trend a bit depressing.
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Post 13783220 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Sub $300 coins around february 11th.
BFX might flash crash as low as $160 for a nanosecond
After that:
Hold your fiat.
Quote me.
But I closed my short 2 days ago and went long because we're about to test 430 something.
And then drop to 300 something,.. in may.
So no mayhem soon...
You think we'll drop at 300 in may? Why?
I mean the trends seems rather stable to me. Of course the usual up and down but going down until 300 means there is some serious shit! It's a really risky price and I don't think we'll reach it without a very valid reason!
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Post 13783538 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Wow wow wow!!
That's a fucking rise incoming
I feel like I did well to buy at 380 xD
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Post 13790382 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
The facts:
If half a million people wanted to send a single bitcoin to another address the same day, THEY COULD NOT ALL DO IT, NO MATTER HOW HIGH A FEE THEY PAID.
People know this and so we do not buy bitcoin. This is why the price is falling. Price will continue to fall or stagnate until capacity is raised.
What? I was not aware the scaling problem was so high!
Why are most people saying that everything is fine and that scaling will come then? It's really not going to help bitcoin adoption! Especially considering how many transaction are made everyday that are "automatic transactions" like faucets or games that are added to the human exchanges.
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Post 13792527 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Yep. Up and down. Up and down.
D-8!
(at least in my country)
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Post 13793520 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
this is weekend and every weekend price down some point
wait and see we will comeback to $380 then $390 then stable at $400
keep holding your bitcoin
Yeah, but the quantity of volume in the past dump makes me wonder if we may drop into the mid to upper $360s before returning upwards?
We have all weekend, no?
Is it true that there is always a drop point in weekends? Never looked at that...
Gonna investigate
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Post 13793582 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Chinese New Year. Time for an old Chinese proverb (I think this goes back to the Qin Dynasty):
Sell Bitcoin and go away. Return refreshed and buy to the moon.
Wow, such deep, much sense, wow
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Post 13802877 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
We are nowhere close to "everything will suck soon" tm. You guys have been saying that for a year now btw.
Actually several years. We've been repeatedly pointing at the same stupid, unnecessary hard ceiling, and pointing out that the inexorable trend of increasing transactions has us on a clear intersect.
In the meantime, we have recently gone from things never sucking in regards to capacity, to things sucking for brief flashes of time. The issue is not how much one needs to pay to get a transaction through, the issue is that with the current block size,
no more than about 350,000 transactions can be processed in a day. Period. No matter how much money is thrown at the transactions.Here's what those two non-parallel lines would look like if the bump to 2MB occurs May 1:
Thanks! This is still the best graph.
Yes, this is still the best
meaningless graph, Andre#.
You are so "spot on" lately.
I am, indeed.
Wahou wahou wahou!
Thanks for the graph indeed, it's a good way to see things.
But what I get from this graph is that 2mb blocks would be a very temporary solution no? Is it only me?
Cause it seems like even if we go to 2mb it'll last for a few months maybe a year or two before we need another action taken.
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Post 13803292 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Why does anybody push this crazy chaotic, contencious (75% 28 days) hard-fork when we have a far superior solution in segwit.
Could everybody please chill and not belive the FUD about capacity cliff. Bitcoin doing as good as ever.
Because, just maybe, they dont share your blind faith?
Well in my own personal case, it's just because I never heard of that thing and have no idea of what it is.
Communication is important buddy!
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Post 13807999 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
^Dude!
Don't know if you were reacting to the FUCKING LONG post of JayJean, but just in case:
Dude!
Does anyone here wanna talk about the 20$ rise then down? Or we continue to talk about the size issue on which we have no power? ^^
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Post 13808959 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
You can't win, smallblockers. It doesn't matter who you DDoS or what other dirty tricks you pull, when the market tanks, the miners will switch to big block code.
From the graph Andre pointed at, I don't see the point of going to 2Mb.
It seems like growing at 2Mb won't change anything, it'll grant only a few months/years of time but not much more.
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Post 13823990 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Oh, marriedtothesea, you little rascal you...
Ahahah xD
Yeah in the end who is in control of btc doesn't really matter. As soon as they try to go somewhere nobody agrees with, we can switch easily. And btc will still have been the beginning of crypto, which is fucking cool.
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Post 13835819 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Peer review.
Well. The important thing in all that is that I never heard of Hashcash but I know bitcoin for good!
The main difference is perhaps here, one of the two only is used by an important part of the world's population :p
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Post 13847681 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
No, you are right, if this is what the consensus is, then thats what it is.
I'm worried that it seems the impetus is to cut it off before it can be established by the means with which it was originally intended to be reached - by running the software of your choice.
What I see (and understand) is that it seems to be a good thing that BTC community reaches a consensus.
I don't really care about the finality simply because I don't understand it. I don't know why btc classic or anything else should be implemented, and as far as I'm trying I still don't see an obvious solution.
But I'm glad to see the community will back one same solution, and not just go in 3 opposites directions.
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Post 13848311 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
No, you are right, if this is what the consensus is, then thats what it is.
I'm worried that it seems the impetus is to cut it off before it can be established by the means with which it was originally intended to be reached - by running the software of your choice.
What I see (and understand) is that it seems to be a good thing that BTC community reaches a consensus.
I don't really care about the finality simply because I don't understand it. I don't know why btc classic or anything else should be implemented, and as far as I'm trying I still don't see an obvious solution.
But I'm glad to see the community will back one same solution, and not just go in 3 opposites directions.
I look forward to Lightning Network if it works as we all hope it does. Hopefully it only requires soft forks to implement.
I'd love to run a lightning node and charge a few bit cents for running it to have a small income from my holdings.
I was not aware of that!
It means you could get rewarded for running a node?
That would help decentralization of nodes no doubt. But I don't think I get it right, does it cost anything to run a node? i mean you do that on an average normal computer no?
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Post 13859038 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
I like to see that we're again in the 380 range!
Now we just have to wait for the eth scam to go down and money to go back to btc :3
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Post 13865192 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Looks like you got your purge Bitusher.
I'm getting posts deleted east, west, left and right.
Congratulations!!!
everybody is talking about censorship. You mean here on bitcointalk? Cause I never suffered any! Neither saw it
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Post 13870328 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.43h):
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
You sleep for few hours and BIM! Nearly the 390 when you were just hopping for the 380
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Post 13890079 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
I don't necessarily disagree with you that there will be people that want more than 21m coins.
An argument like that will never be presented "we want more coins and high inflation for the lolz".
It will be presented as "we want cheap txs".... Arguments like
"People want cheap txs, who are you to stop that".... Populist bullshit like "bigger blocks" and the "dangers" of "fullblockalypse".
Bah, by the time no more coins are mined the technologies will have change so much... How can anyone predict what will seem a good idea then? ^^
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Post 13890443 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
I don't necessarily disagree with you that there will be people that want more than 21m coins.
An argument like that will never be presented "we want more coins and high inflation for the lolz".
It will be presented as "we want cheap txs".... Arguments like
"People want cheap txs, who are you to stop that".... Populist bullshit like "bigger blocks" and the "dangers" of "fullblockalypse".
There is no comparison between a hard fork to raise the blocksize and a hard fork to increase the 21 milion cap on supply. The former is a minor property that almost everyone agrees will need to be changed at some point. I owned Bitcoins for years before I even know there was a max blocksize. I knew of the 21 MM limit before I bought my first coin.
A slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeDude increasing the 21 M limit and increasing the block size is the same thing.
What? Whaaaaaat?
I'm clearly not aware of that! What are you talking about? What's the link between block size and coins cap?
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Post 13901201 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Aaaaaaaand, they're all gone...
Did I just single-handedly thwart a Sybil attack?
What's a Sybil attack?
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Post 13901742 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Aaaaaaaand, they're all gone...
Did I just single-handedly thwart a Sybil attack?
What's a Sybil attack?
Sybil Shepard has the power to take down Bitcoin...she sometimes attacks Bitcoin but it is up to each and every one of us to stop her.
Damn! I didn't no she was evil like that...
I'll try to do my part for sure!
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Post 13913282 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Reported. You are annoying.
Go Fuck Yourself
Be sure to slurp the nigger semen out of theymos' disgusting 9 foot wide anus after Tyrone has had his way with him.
Wtf is happening? I miss something important here no? When did we start talking about theymos anus? Oo
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Post 13913311 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
ETHERUM FAGGOTS MAD
THEY MISSED THE BITCOIN BOAT
THEY MISSED THE BITCOIN TRAIN
THE FUCKING PLANE DEPARTED WHILE THEY WERE JERKING OFF IN THE TERMINALS BATHROOM
NOW THEY ATTEMPT TO SHILL SOME FUCKIN SHITTY ALCOIN CREATED BY THE KING OF ALL AUTISTS AND BACKED BY BANKSTERS AND KIKES BECAUSE IT'S CONTROLLED AS FUCK
GOOD LUCK, I SERIOUSLY CAN'T STOP LAUGHING, IM SURE YOUR SHITTY AUTIST COIN IS GOING TO THE MOON, NO, KEEP BUYING
You're a bit spamming like hell dude, I saw only you in the last 3 pages xD
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Post 13913536 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Ahah!
Am I the only one having the impression there is a tsunami of sale incoming? xD
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Post 13920371 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
...
On the next reward halving hundreds of millions of dollars in obsolete mining hardware will be sold cheaply privately or online. This will open a window of vulnerability giving an attacker the possibility to buy a huge amount of hashing power for very little money and execute a 51% attack.
Right, or simply a mega factory mine which hasn't bought into the latest generation gear & is stuck with hangars already built out & running.
Unable to mine by the rules, so no longer invested in BTC, but able to form an axis of evol with other newly-obsoleted factory mines & wreak havoc
This is a very strange experiment.
If I had the money Id probably do it just for sport. And I
like Bitcoin.
Well I understand you but... it would take so much effort ^^
But you would actually control bitcoin and that would be crazy cool... The end of it would be that it would just kill bitcoin though!
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Post 13926424 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Hey!
I don't like Burger King but that's really cool to see a shop like this accepting btc especially in Europe!
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Post 13926618 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
We should try to curb adoption early. Too many users not running full core nodes weakens the system. Like parasites
You're serious?
I mean if you are, then seems like you have a very "elite" perception of cryptocurrencies...
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Post 13928868 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Good morning Bitcoinland.
I see we're still hovering around $420. At least $400 seems to be holding (for now).
After a week and a half of pretty steady price rise, you'd think we'd see a slight correction but maybe this rise isn't done quite yet.
Come on Bitcoin, let's keep this moving up.
Well we should maybe stop moving up and get some stability on the 415 ^^
When the 415 floor will be strong enough, yeah let's move up again!
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Post 13935200 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
thanks for the segwit reading guys. quite helpful.
421.97 pretty stable the last few hours. weren't we expecting a breakaway over 420?
Seems like we went back to 415 though. But It's a good thing as long as it keeps more or less stable at this point
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Post 13936277 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.44h):
Guys... Is this a head and shoulders?
It's a dump incomiiiiiiiiiing!
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Post 13948500 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
This seems to be related to some meeting in China regarding trying to reach consensus.
https://twitter.com/cnLedgerLatest tweets:
52m ago [HKmtg]To Everyone reading this. The consensus is not yet an official announcement. You should wait and read the statement after the meeting
1 hours ago [HKmtg]To Everyone: We have CONSENSUS! In April we get SW, 3 months later, core HF code ready
1 hours ago [HKmtg]F2Pool CTO Wang: today, we agree here to end the debate politically, and sort out the tech details later.
4 hours ago [HKmtg]Core:A contentious HF, will cause price to drop. In 2013-03 a HF resulted in thousands of coins lost, and harmed a large pool.
Damn that's freaking cool! It means price is going to skyrocket!!!
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Post 13948731 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
can anyone explain me what did they decide to do to increase the block size or not? i dont understand too much about that
nothing is offical but is seems to have played out like we were hoping
we'll get segwit and 2MB later, they should be setting a date for HF as we speak!
so increasing the block limit with a hard fork is actually good? wont it have negative effect on price because of the 2 chains that will be created?
poeple are clueless
fuck'm, shove'm out of the way! Buy BUY BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUY =D
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Post 13954005 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Gonna see a little down for some times!
Yep yep yep!
It'll be down a bit then up again the down... But upper trend for sure!
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Post 13955611 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Damn, the more the time passes, the less I understand this thread xD
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Post 13964819 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Opened my long 8 seconds too late :/
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Post 13969728 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
I've bet on 420 before wednesday!
Pretty sure we'll see it. Small dump coming.
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Post 13975983 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Oh, another moon post. Missed this ^^
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Post 13976102 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
Oh, another moon post. Missed this ^^
NP
You know I actually re read the thread looking for your picture? I was like "what? Never saw this one did I?" ^^
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Post 13991704 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
My target of ~410 reached. And back up. Enjoy.
My bets are on a continuation of the uptrend after retracing to ~410 maybe?
you've been calling the swings like a pro ... what are you taking?!
Maybe he is a bear/bull whale, market maker?
If yes could he just keep posting his moves a few minutes before moving the market?
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Post 14003192 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
blocks are completely full
every single one
my 1cent fee tx has yet to be mined
CB's maths are wrong.
I had to wait the whole night for my tx to go through. First time I need to wait so long :-/
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Post 14003440 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
blocks are completely full
every single one
my 1cent fee tx has yet to be mined
CB's maths are wrong.
I had to wait the whole night for my tx to go through. First time I need to wait so long :-/
Anything from 0.02$+ confirms fast, as proved, and even 0.01$ confirms in a few hours.
Again: This is ridiculously low fees. The fact that transactions are even included at these rates is a market failure of shorts.
Question of point of view. 1 cent for a 1$ tx is 1%. Not a ridiculous amount.
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Post 14003514 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.45h):
blocks are completely full
every single one
my 1cent fee tx has yet to be mined
CB's maths are wrong.
I had to wait the whole night for my tx to go through. First time I need to wait so long :-/
Anything from 0.02$+ confirms fast, as proved, and even 0.01$ confirms in a few hours.
Again: This is ridiculously low fees. The fact that transactions are even included at these rates is a market failure of shorts.
Question of point of view. 1 cent for a 1$ tx is 1%. Not a ridiculous amount.
You can have 250.000 txs per day moving around 1 dollar on avg (daily volume = 250k$), or you could be moving 1000$ (daily volume = 250mn $).
It's a choice.
And scaling can't go 1000x - I mean Gavin can't come up with 1GB blocks to produce 250mn transactions per day of avg 1 dollar.
I see your point. But BTC is not used for massive tx. In fact its reputation is rather the contrary: being able to send small amounts to people. This comes from all the faucets and ponzi shits.
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Post 14014586 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
I wouldn't be overly shocked to see $450's in the near future.
Long and strong.
Desperate much
Not so strong i'd say!
Yeah even weak I'd say! ^^
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Post 14045886 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
Seems like the 10 last blocks were all over 90% full :p
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Post 14069887 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
If I understand well, open bazar is just a P2P eshop platform?
The only difference with things like ebay is that you can pay in btc?
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Post 14081674 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
Bitcoin is abdicating its first mover status as electronic cash by not allowing the consumer market to make general purchases. Others will gladly take its place and enjoy the liquidity.
That's it. I'm getting back into altcoins. Thanks Blockstream!!
Yeah.. .thanks Obama.
By the way, which possible alts are you gonna try out? I may follow your lead... because this bitcoin governance is just bullshit and seems to be taking way too long in causing bitcoin to become the dominant world currency...
We gotta just figure out to which coyn are we gonna go?
There are nearly 700 choices, but I am sure any of them would be better than this bitcoin crap.
I was thinking about LIQUID coin... .. At least the name seems to be heading in the right direction.
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/liquid/However, if you have a better choice, I will consider that, too.. I'm flexible like that.
Don't hesitate to PM me if you've got a good candidate.
Honestly I'm more and more doubtful about btc future.
Yeah. The blocks have been like 80% or more full for days, and I did a nearly 3btc transaction today it cost me fricken $.04, and took nearly 2 fucking hours to confirm.
You know I could have used something else that's better. I'm sure there's gotta be something that will give more comfort. We just gotta find it.
Damn... You do realize it's nearly 0.0004% transaction fee???
Scandalous!
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Post 14083236 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
People are still mainly paying 0.0001 in fees. Big and small.
They haven't heard about the fee market. Stuff just doesn't work properly.
When will this retarded experiment end....
What's your solution though?
Bigger blocks aren't a solution. We'd have to rise the size of the block every 6 months. It wouldn't be sustainable.
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Post 14092310 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.46h):
Whaou? Three chart buddy posts consecutive without any comment while a down trend is on the move?
Where are the tears of the longers?
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Post 14122831 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
wow that's actually pretty good, especially the pleading parts lol
at the end of the day its the miners that will decide,,, just "fork" it
lol, fuck ya buddy!
JUST FORK IT
Late IMHO.
BTC boat is taking the water. Good time to get out. Just sell everything and come back once they understood that it can't wait.
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Post 14123452 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
china's gonna light yer ass up
My sells weren't done, coins in transfer to the exchange plateform...
But I'm maybe going to wait a bit in case you're right
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Post 14134044 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
Damn stable. Just raise a bit, I wanna sell at 380 that's all I ask for
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Post 14144628 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
ETH is a worthless shitcoin.
bitcoin is Technically superior, more network effect, more limited in supply, more decentralized. POS HA What a JOke! I like it xD
Well they gotta find a solution fast, or the dumping is going to be hard.
I don't understand the reasoning of miners. maybe there is something I didn't understand...
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Post 14155622 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.47h):
Decision point reached? Up?
After few days of stable price the up is going back?
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Post 14668154 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Bring up the price to $490 again. I want to see this go as high as it can until it hits the $500 wall like earlier this year.
What are you? Ridiculous?
There's no $500 wall.
Now, I know what you are talking about. On November 4, 2015, the $502 was clearly a fast move upwards in which the total bitcoin community was not able to support such a quick uprising in prices or to sustain such a price at that time. Such a supposed wall is not existent under the current circumstances.
Good luck to you and anyone else who expects to find a wall at $500 and to profit by dumping before $500 this time around.
That is what I meant the resistance of getting past n staying above $500.
Not a wall
Once we clear 480ish we will cut right through 500 without even blinking. That said, we will probably consolidate for a little while at this level first.
Another one dreaming :3
I keep seeing post saying we gonna break the 500$ since early December.
Well guess what? We never did it.
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Post 14668336 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
Bring up the price to $490 again. I want to see this go as high as it can until it hits the $500 wall like earlier this year.
What are you? Ridiculous?
There's no $500 wall.
Now, I know what you are talking about. On November 4, 2015, the $502 was clearly a fast move upwards in which the total bitcoin community was not able to support such a quick uprising in prices or to sustain such a price at that time. Such a supposed wall is not existent under the current circumstances.
Good luck to you and anyone else who expects to find a wall at $500 and to profit by dumping before $500 this time around.
That is what I meant the resistance of getting past n staying above $500.
Not a wall
Once we clear 480ish we will cut right through 500 without even blinking. That said, we will probably consolidate for a little while at this level first.
Another one dreaming :3
I keep seeing post saying we gonna break the 500$ since early December.
Well guess what? We never did it.
this time it is......
Ahahah!
Well if it is I won't complain. But if I had to bet I'd say "slow rise until 490/495 then fucking drop back to the 460"
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Post 14668423 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.49h):
That gif is on old time most favourite! It reminds me the days from August to November 2013 when the Willy affair brought us to 1000$.
Personally, I think we will pass 600$ sometimes this month. Mark my guess
Wanna bet on that?
I'm ready to bet whatever amount you want (under 10 btc cause I don't have more to bet xD)
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Post 15508066 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
ok, time for a rebound!
700 by tomorrow then 800 by Saturday
Lol!
You know there is an actual end to the rise of btc price don't you? xD
The price just can't goes up and up for eternity!
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Post 15528436 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
I have nowhere else to go, no one else i could turn to. Sheeple don't believe me when I start telling them about investing in disruptive blockchain technology. And when they realize I'm not joking, they laugh at me.
They're ignorant, brainwashed from birth in state schools and by the Jewish media, it's not their fault. But you. . . . you can think outside the box. . . . Expected better from you.
Do not trade. Buy and Hold. If you are gambler then it is your fault.
Agreed on that. Especially with btc where you have no idea of the odds ^^
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Post 15528609 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Countdown begins.....
4 years until halving
Lol!
Well I just hope that with time people will learn something and stop panicking with the next halvings coming!
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Post 15533696 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
So where's the big rise
Just wait some 2 months and you'll see it
Hmm... Not too sure about that. This two months rule seems a bit arbitrarian to me no? I don't see any reason to it.
Especially as nowadays everyone knows about halving. It's not like people are surprised by it!
No way can that graph be right...the mining corps will go broke!!!!
They can't hold out that long with half revenue
And they can't let the diff drop cause home miners may step up mining ops & ruin their takeover plans
I'd like to see the end of mining Corp you know...
The good old time of home mining.I'd like to go back to this time!
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Post 15555977 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Maybe another BTC rise??
Lol no, let's not be greedy.
Oh & your welcome world for the financial meltdown.......brought to you by the US financial system
U.S. stocks at new record high
U.S. economy adds 287,000 jobs in June
The S&P 500 closed above 2,137, surpassing the previous all-time record set back in May 2015.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/11/investing/stocks-record-high-dow-jones-sp-500/Watcha be talking about, Jasper?
It's not because everything is fine in USA that the problem isn't it's financial model
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Post 15556625 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
Maybe another BTC rise??
Lol no, let's not be greedy.
Oh & your welcome world for the financial meltdown.......brought to you by the US financial system
U.S. stocks at new record high
U.S. economy adds 287,000 jobs in June
The S&P 500 closed above 2,137, surpassing the previous all-time record set back in May 2015.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/11/investing/stocks-record-high-dow-jones-sp-500/Watcha be talking about, Jasper?
Inflation, QE (aka theft) and don't get me started on the jobs that were created (and how much harder people are working and getting paid less for it, while working more.)
Yeah but they're all here saying it's normal to work your ass off for a shitty salary cause... You know... you have to...
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Post 15556817 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.55h):
How many Sell orders will there be after halving. Most will wait for the price to hike then sell their bitcoins right after.
Well the price already hiked in its own way!
How high must it go to expect those sells ?
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Post 15780734 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
What's happening guys? To be honest I was not expecting this much of a battering after staying at $660 or so for a fairly long time.
Some down is always happening, it's necessary because some people sell coins from time to time ^^
The only important part is: GOING UP
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Post 15781653 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.56h):
This is today (hours ago) from Kraken.
What is this?
Top price of both candles were 589.30300
Does this number means anything or is someone just fucking with my head?
A bug maybe?
I don't know. Weirdest things happen ^^
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Post 17496345 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Watching Stamp to see if we have really turned.
The book is pretty thin - 1000 BTC either bought or sold will make a huge price difference, so Stamp (which looks a leader right now) is very vulnerable to whale whims...
Tread carefully. I am looking for a dip to blow the last of my fiat, I put half of what I sold at the high 900s back in at 798 yesterday and then it went below. Thankfully I am ok now - but I haven't got a clue if I will get one more dip or not for the other half. Let's see.
EDIT: Wishing everyone a filthy French Weekend of screen action.
A filthy French Weekend?
You mean you wish us to all raise the white flag together
Doesn't make much sense man
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Post 17520462 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Bitcoin Difficulty: 336,899,932,796
Estimated Next Difficulty: 380,176,964,299 (+12.85%)
Adjust time: After 1113 Blocks, About 6.8 days
That is a good good reason NOT sell anything i get from mining.
I am sure many others who mine until now will do the same...
I expect a big impact on the price upwards.
I think in 2 weeks from now the price should be at 900 about.
Yeah but if everyone is doing like you...
It means price will go up indeed.
But as soon as it goes up enough all the miners will start to sell what they mined!
So price is gonna crash again :/
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Post 17525442 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
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Hey guys, can someone give a link for the slow turtle I am?
You're all talking about "ETF" and I don't have a clue on what it is.
And your article isn't better Fakhoury, I bet it's fucking interesting but it only details the effect of ETF approval or refusal and how ETF could change bitcoin worlf and maybe even financial world in a more general way but without ever saying again what ETF means because xD
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Post 17525588 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
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Hey guys, can someone give a link for the slow turtle I am?
You're all talking about "ETF" and I don't have a clue on what it is.
And your article isn't better Fakhoury, I bet it's fucking interesting but it only details the effect of ETF approval or refusal and how ETF could change bitcoin worlf and maybe even financial world in a more general way but without ever saying again what ETF means because xD
Here's an old article explaining what a bitcoin ETF is.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/041114/why-winklevoss-twins-new-bitcoin-etf-matters.aspThe Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust, currently moving towards regulatory approval, could be approved by the end of 2014 and will be a Bitcoin exchange-traded fund (ETF), with each share representing an amount of bitcoin held by the Trust. Currently, such an investment vehicle is only available to wealthy investors, through funds like the Bitcoin Investment Trust. The Winklevoss ETF will allow people with a brokerage account to invest in Bitcoin without having to worry about the challenges of buying, storing, and safekeeping bitcoin.
Thanks for the link but...
I don't see the point.
Bitcoin is one of the easiest things in the world to buy and store no?
Why on earth would it be necessary to through a funds company?
" Furthermore, secure storage of bitcoins by placing them into cold storage - that is, in wallets that are kept disconnected from the internet - can be technically challenging and investors may not want to take the responsibility of handling this.
"
Like seriously? Challenging? xD
A kid could do that after a couple of tries, don't tell me it's "challenging"!
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Post 17586829 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Good morning Bitcoinland.
I see we're having one of those days.
Current price... $913USD (Bitcoinaverage).
Ho hum.
Ahahah yeah exactly !
All people panicking on the potential "crash" make me laugh.
Aim long term. It would need to lose at least 400 dollars so i lose money!
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Post 17639217 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
This part of the forum is almost dead. Are all on hollydays or people went to another forum? I remember the chart guys and the "its happening" dudes.
The chart guy was a bot no?
I remember when we had the hourly charts about btc moves and mempool.
Was fucking awesome. I don't know why they're dead :/
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Post 17661156 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
Year of the rooster, not chicken
Indeed.
There is a cock of difference.
I wouldn't have the balls to confuse the two.
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Post 17661899 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.02h):
600 is just as arbitrary a figure as 900. it's worth whatever anyone's willing to sell for and someone else is willing to buy. the price is 95% hot air anyway.
Agreed here.
It's true for pretty much anything but it's REALLY TRUE for bitcoin.
Material things have a clear and defined utility. There is some kind of internal values for objects.
But btc? It's just... An idea. It worth nothing more than what people are willing to pay for this idea.
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Post 17860624 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.03h):
considering selling at current price (makes decent profit) and putting in a stop order to buy back in case price rises above 1015...
Sell low, buy high
It's also my motto, so far so good
I do that everytime.
That's why I no longer do trading x)
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Post 18080940 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.04h):
That page literally says "Unlisted" right below "COIN". The COIN symbol has been reserved for years. This is not an indicator of anything.
shhhhhh
Don't break their dreams.
Let them buys buy and buy.
Sell your btc and then buy again when panick selling comes
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Post 19175963 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
Why is Kraken 80$ below? xD
I don't understand what the arbitrage traders are doing ^^
If only I had the funds...
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Post 19194048 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.10h):
im close to post a rocket but i don't want to put bad luck on us
yeah, no rockets and trains plz
Agreed.
That's when people start entering the train and rocket gifs mode that you know the pin is close to the baloon :p
But it's far too early.
I don't want to see any dump before the 5k$ U here me?
Wanna double my stash then after you can do whatever you want!
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Post 19238886 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
i don't know why anyone here's currently trying to second guess things. with every exchange bursting with new users, the only thing you can be sure of is that the usual traders are not in the driving seat for now.
What we can guess with a great confidence though:
Price will swing and play ping pong between 2000 and 3000 for a good amount of time.
BTC is incredibly versatile in price. There is in fact no reason for it to stabilize anywhere. I don't understand why people panick or FOMO. There is really an incredibly tiny chance that the price skyrockets to 10k$ and never comes back to 2500. Of course it will probably happen a day or another, but the chance that it happens at the moment you buy is low as fuck.
Just consider this as a perpetual movement between two big hands ^^
Price will continue to swing simply because nothing will prevent it from doing so.
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Post 19242358 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
lol someone is mad because the price is dropping ??
what a fcking shame
Maybe someone is mad because you're not exactly behaving like a gentleman
Never saw anyone getting censored here.
It's mostly trolls that get their posts deleted. It's a speculation thread I don't really think they'll ban anyone bearish just because they're bearish.
BUT if you're bearish and act like a bearish dick then...
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Post 19270324 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Ahhh, the good old days without governments. With local warlords and pillaging...
Fact is that without government you'd have... Governments.
That's like rats, everytime you kill one you get a whole new family settling in your cave.
So live with your rats and learn to love them :3
Same can be said about altcoins right now! Everytime one is down, 5 new ICO are beginning xD
Does anyone have a site or something to follow the big ICO launches by the way? Because when ICO are really good they make the price move. Up if ICO is accepting BTC only!
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Post 19271142 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
Ahhh, the good old days without governments. With local warlords and pillaging...
Fact is that without government you'd have... Governments.
That's like rats, everytime you kill one you get a whole new family settling in your cave.
So live with your rats and learn to love them :3
Same can be said about altcoins right now! Everytime one is down, 5 new ICO are beginning xD
Does anyone have a site or something to follow the big ICO launches by the way? Because when ICO are really good they make the price move. Up if ICO is accepting BTC only!
There is a site here, in Bitcointalk.org:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0Lol yeah but... This section is pure trash.
I mean everytime someone launches a shitcoin, they hire hundreds of newcommers and launch them on this section to talk and talk and talk of how great the project will be.
I'd like more... Objective informations.
Like about the creators, the code itself, what it's worth etc...
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Post 19310685 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.11h):
So, im bullish on Ripple, like many other. This doesnt mean i dont have my BTC stash in place, and believe me, my BTC dont get jealous.. so why all the fuzzle?
The fact that the company owns XRP tokens in semi-infinite quantities is a real hindrance to the value of each such token. Their ability to profit off the seignorage works directly against the interest of XRP hodlers.
Sure.
The problem isn't really about how XRP works but how they were created.
Once XRP goes to the top the company will simply sell a part of the stash and that's all.
No way people will ever use this shit.
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Post 19648789 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
Wahou...
And... What's going to happen if Segwit reach 80% support?
I mean BTC price has been so high for weeks I don't want to see it crash for technical reasons...
Although technical reasons would probably the only reasons for a real crash of BTC
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Post 19710004 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.13h):
No. I mean the capitulation of GW Bush administration to Wall Street extortionists. By the end of 2008 US gov was already a division of Wall Street.
Obama was the choice of the financial capital. With Trump's victory the industrial capital managed to gain some ground back but not too much.
becoin, you're very observant. I agree.
Bush and Obama caved to the "club" and became club members themselves, the club being the Deepstate - Fed/Bankers/Megacorp/Wallstreet with their Globalist world financial agenda. That is why the MSM largely gave both of them a pass.
But Trump is pushing back, and that's why the Deepstate controlled MSM is out to hang him on something. They want him out of office now because he's not completely on board with selling out the U.S. citizens and continuing the U.S. demise.
Could we stay on topic gentlemen? ^^
Note that I don't mind discussing politics but there is a part on the forum dedicated for that. Especially as I don't see how Trump is linked to BTC price... He won't do anything to make the dollar stronger: I don't think he wants to, he doesn't care at all about his country or its economy, and even if he wanted to I'm not sure he could do anything.
And on topic: Did you see how the price is on the rise again? Do you think there is a link with the segwit2x increasing support?
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Post 28627822 (copy this link) (by valta4065) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_15.39h):
where to fish this bottom?
Pretty much anytime is the bottom right now :/
I mean we've reached the 20k... We're at 11k...
So you can buy anytime and hold tight.
If you try to fish the bottom there is statistically a rather low chance that you hit the right point. YOu'll probably miss the bottom and sooner than you think it'll be over 20k again ^^
