All posts made by stylin in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 4724235 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Quote from: billyjoeallen on January 25, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
Wow, somebody sold a few billion dollars woth of Stocks today. What do you think they'll going to do with alllll those profits? let 'em sit in depreciating fiat? Hey, didn't that bitcoin center just open up on Wall Street?

Do you think we are still in a bull stock market?



2. Post 4724512 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

I dont know, that's why I asked you. I've been putting off the homework on this. I think we will see maybe a small gain like 10% this year but I am not sure..



3. Post 4724572 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.58h):

Cool, thanks for the response. I feel like I am spending too little time thinking about my investments. I buy stocks without looking at things like P/E ratio, lol.



4. Post 4844026 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.01h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 30, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
WOW BTCChina jumped from 1900 BTC volume to 11200 in just few hours
But look at the transaction log:


2014-01-30 16:34:06 | 4836.00 | 40.402
2014-01-30 16:33:57 | 4835.99 | 40.523
2014-01-30 16:33:49 | 4836.00 | 40.645
2014-01-30 16:33:40 | 4835.99 | 40.767
2014-01-30 16:33:30 | 4836.00 | 40.890
2014-01-30 16:33:21 | 4835.99 | 41.013
2014-01-30 16:33:12 | 4836.00 | 41.136
2014-01-30 16:33:02 | 4835.99 | 41.259
2014-01-30 16:32:53 | 4836.00 | 41.383
2014-01-30 16:32:44 | 4835.99 | 41.507
2014-01-30 16:32:34 | 4836.00 | 41.632
2014-01-30 16:32:24 | 4835.99 | 41.757
2014-01-30 16:32:15 | 4836.00 | 41.883
2014-01-30 16:32:06 | 4835.99 | 42.008
2014-01-30 16:31:56 | 4836.00 | 42.134
2014-01-30 16:31:47 | 4835.99 | 42.261
2014-01-30 16:31:45 | 4836.00 |  4.000
2014-01-30 16:31:38 | 4836.00 | 42.388
2014-01-30 16:31:29 | 4835.99 | 42.515
2014-01-30 16:31:19 | 4836.00 | 42.643
2014-01-30 16:31:10 | 4835.99 | 42.771
2014-01-30 16:31:00 | 4836.00 | 42.900
2014-01-30 16:30:52 | 4835.99 | 43.028
2014-01-30 16:30:43 | 4836.00 | 25.776


There is obviously a strongly negative feeling in this forum against Huobi and OKCoin, and very warm feelings about BTC-China. People keep claiming that Huobi's volume is fake (even though strong evidence of fakery has been shown only at other exchanges); and seem very happy that BTC-China is back in business (even though it will be just another Chinese-only(?) exchange).

May I ask why this bias? Personal reasons, or some technical features that I cannot see?






What is happening is that BTCChina has recently instituted a reward for market-making (google market-maker). This means that a whale can set huge buy and sell orders very close to each other and make money off of others buying and selling into them. This happens on Wall Street all the time, and now Bobby Lee has actually incentivized it. It's a genius move in my opinion, it reduces volatility and increases liquidity.

Now a bot that hasn't taken this recently-added incentive into account is buying and selling into the market-making bots' orders. I am not surprised they found a bot to exploit, BTCChina has been dead for a while. It's probably running off a formula based on volume and its own volume is tricking it into buying and selling. The bot is slowly losing a lot of money though, when the owner wakes up in the morning he will be pissed lol.



5. Post 5189975 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

The only explanation that makes sense: the Gox sellers are accounts which were used to fraudulently withdraw BTC using malleability attacks, and they know those balances will be invalid once Gox gets its shit together. So may as well maximize the panic to potentially buy cheap coins on other exchanges.

Did I nail it or what?



6. Post 5190438 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.11h):

Quote from: jatajuta on February 17, 2014, 01:51:20 AM
The only explanation that makes sense: the Gox sellers are accounts which were used to fraudulently withdraw BTC using malleability attacks, and they know those balances will be invalid once Gox gets its shit together. So may as well maximize the panic to potentially buy cheap coins on other exchanges.

Did I nail it or what?
Yeah bro, this is obviously the only possible explanation.  Roll Eyes *sarcasm*

This would make it harder to recover the attacks since the coins would be spread out in the wild.


Well what they can do is just confiscate the fiat from the accounts and use it to buy up the missing bitcoins, in the end this works as it is zero-sum.



7. Post 5582509 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Quote from: oyvinds on March 08, 2014, 06:33:24 AM
The most funny thing is when those TA self-precious smartarses claim that news doesn't affect the price. Yeah, their fancy lines do it, lol.

It doesn't matter if it's news or fud or fear or hope that affects the price, the truth is in the chart. The charts will tell you where the price is moving, where the volume is and so on. You can analyze the charts without having to care about what "news" drives the movements, the effect of "news" and the actual response will be clearly visible regardless.

It also does not matter if the war is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. The essential act of modern warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour. A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. In principle, the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation


I use TA. I believe in it. Only as a small factor in my trading decisions however, maybe 10%. The thing about TA is that it is always right in retrospect. It is just hard to use to predict things. I find that using TA over multiple orders of timeframes (say, 2 days, 2 hours, and 15 minutes) can help if they all agree with each other. I think traders are foolish to completely ignore TA.



8. Post 5582818 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Quote from: seleme on March 08, 2014, 07:03:03 AM
Specially if you draw the chart with 70 different possibilities so you can claim being right if any of those 70 come true.

Charts can help, things like Fibs are useful tools. I like double tops and bottoms too. But in Bitcoin - news, sentiment, whales and lack of common sense by loads of amateur traders beat ass of any chart on the world.

I mostly don't know shit about charts. Yet made 2000$ today. How? Just using common sense to see that sentiment was it's going down and then watching market closely to see when it could be bottom for that mini trend to enter the trade. And then doing the opposite on up move (though I usually do it bit too early in this part when I just swing trade). Nothing fancy but very profitable.


The thing about TA is that it is the only holistic account of the market. News and sentiment provide one angle, but they are not "complete" (I don't know how else to describe it, English is my second language.) TA draws on aggregate supply and demand which is a "complete" statement of the market. The price is ALWAYS correct. You feel me? I always hear people trying to guess when the whales that "pumped yesterday" are going to dump, honestly trading on assumptions like these will put you at a disadvantage IMO. A price rise could be caused by many things: a single whale getting in short term (which is what people ALWAYS attribute price rises to), but also whales getting in mid-to-long term (and why not squeeze shorts and create a pump while they're at it?), institutional buying, druglords who simply want to transfer their fiat into bitcoin, Chinese government officials who will never cash out (doing so would leave traces of bribery), etc etc etc. Same goes for dumps. The point is we will never know the motivations behind rise and fall. We can only look at the charts.



9. Post 5634306 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Lol at all the talk about paying taxes. One word boys and girls: Anarcho-capitalism (serious).





Anarcho-capitalism is one of two logical end-states, with the other being national socialism. Both are completely non-contradictory given their premises (freedom vs. control/safety). I personally don't agree with nat-soc but will acknowledge that it logically follows given its starting assumption.

Ancap seeks to socially apply many of the already-developed principles of economics. The premise of ancap is the non-aggression principle, thus it recognizes the inherent illegitimacy of all government. The problem most people have with ancap is that it necessitates suffering of the weak. If the US were to suddenly go ancap there would be a long period of the weak dying off, a "purge" if you will.... but what people don't understand is that the resulting society would be almost utopic.

I don't believe humanity will see ancap for hundreds of years - it is so far ahead of today's times that no doubt the vast majority of you reading this post will dismiss it. However, as long as we are below the technological Singularity and scarcity exists, ancap is the logical end state. We'll get there... even if it takes centuries of mistakes and rebuilding and mistakes and rebuilding.

The interesting thing about Bitcoin is that it is one of the first true ancap technologies. It makes sense, though - everything follows money and it's only logical that money should be the first to change.



10. Post 5634507 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.25h):

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on March 11, 2014, 03:24:56 AM
The main problem with ancap is that there's nothing preventing a violent gang (a new government if you will) from forming, because everyone else is being so peaceful, and if everyone else stops being peaceful, then it it isn't ancap any more - its just regular anarchy.

Ancap will only work if there is some force to stop people from conducting acts of violence, preferably some force that isn't corruptible. So, until we have open-source peacemaking enforcement droids no such utopia can exist.

Once ancap becomes firmly established this will not be a problem, others will band together to defeat the "violent gang," if this "violent gang" happens to win it will simply be peaks and troughs of centralization vs decentralization settling on a long-term mean. Also, ancap doesn't require that every single person who owns land/property defend it himself, there will be large communities (perhaps even states) of trust where everybody acknowledges that it is to the betterment of the community to work together.

Ancap isn't feasible now mainly because the technology is hardly there to support it. Freedom of information, a transparent money trail, and the abolition of privacy (yes... I said it... too many libertarians clinging onto privacy, well the notion of social privacy is obsolete now, it is simply another element of human living that will be destroyed by civilization) must all be present for ancap to truly exist.



11. Post 5649943 (copy this link) (by stylin) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

Bitcoin defender! I think it's great that someone took the time to make an argument on this site, even though the community is so small.

http://www.youargue.com/topic/191I0