did he even went through with his bet and escrowed his BTCs?  

uhhh cant wait to face such dilemma

imho i don't believe US government would let go that easy.. good old poker face?

FTFY

this: http://www.infowars.com/italian-riot-police-remove-helmets-join-anti-eu-protesters/

got that feeling that this year is going to be awsome

fkn euro.. free bitcoin!

EU-anti-riot robot army?!  

I can trade you my code for some BTCs if you have too many...

must confess they sound a bit desperate though..

you really think they will directly sell 100% of the coins they get?!
imho they decided to jump in the bitcoin train not only to expand their marketshare, but also to make even more profit hodling some of it.. I mean, isnt that all about profit after all?

ahh ok. but still, wouldnt coinbase or bitpay 'play' a little with the bitcoins they get instead of dumping it all on the market? :/

i dont know if i would buy this... after all, they are ex-Goldman.. :/

edit: and they surely waged the risk/PROFIT

yes i think you are completely right. But i would not underestimate the power of speculation.  

I am sure they are already making miiiilionnnnnsssss

if only I would have been a norwegian..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-shareholders-in-world27s-big/5191480

but hey.. i am a bitcoiner

ahah despare here we come

I most certainly think that a lot more than 51% of all bitcoin are actually being hodled

hell no they are going to sell back so that they can buy MUUUUCHHH cheaper later on

Not sure huobi is about to close.
Again, here is some perspective about that whole china situation (for those who missed it):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397614.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406637.msg4407494
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406635.msg4407488

How about Virgin fully embrace Bitcoin to start some nice rally sir?!

even worse: water is what allow drug plants to grow in the first place.. should definitively do something about such vicious enemy.

btw so cool that Sir Branson is among us

edit: lets do a bitcoin sponsored hot-air balloon trip!

R. Brandson about to set us all up to the moon

it is not about the news, its more about the utility.

hehehehe

http://bullmarketthinking.com/peter-grandich-its-time-to-put-the-growling-bear-suit-back-on-again/


@sitarow could you explain me how do you come up with such nice screenshot?

cool thx but i was talking about how to aggregate all this data and display it as in that screenshot

hum and what does 'import the layout 890' means? sry i am a bit new with this

haha exactly. same analysis here.  

the whole point of being a bear: stealing 'dump-sters'..  

600-700$ could definitely happen again before some new ATH. and if it happens, it could also lead to some more drastic plummet because of panic selling madness

now thats interesting! I asked if it has been done by the past but no one knew.  




i dont think people will rush into buying back in before the end of january (considering China situation, US debate, etc..). wait and see.

thank you, you perfectly summed up what is my opinion about all this. imho this is the more likely, reasonable and objective scenario/analysis i've seen so far.

i hope she did not charged him for at least a couple of months !

THIS.

everything else is fud.

...gamblers

hum if i get it you argue that it could drop to 90 and that we are in a long term bull market... dont see the point.

edit: this one is much more precise : https://www.tradingview.com/e/M1ZPd859/
it gives you a clear 'chanel' (the pink one) to consider when trading

vive la france!

i am french, and i was very pleased about that hearing. it seems the politics have finally understood that it is a technology and not just a new 'money' for buying illegal s**t. they grasp the idea that it could give an advantage to the early adopters/regulators. However, i would not hope for more movement for the next couple of years as the government priority is to regulate crowdfunding plateforms for now (yeah that quite late considering US and UK.. and i think that it will be the same for Bitcoin). so no stress, no hurry, no banning on the horizon.. it just gives me a nice step ahead

apparently even HIV/AIDS is a scam  

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBmwiV6prE4
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXpgfMeP-U

lol i wasnt trolling (or maybe a little ) but seriously, i know that people actually die because of it but when looking deeper it seems it is a little bit more complicated than it looks and thats all im saying. no need to wish death upon me i am a nice enthusiastic and CURIOUS person

now back to bitcoinnnn

heard of solar cycles? *if* thats the real deal, i doubt there is anything we can do. imo fukushima's radioactivity disaster is far more critical yet nothing has been successfully done to make it better. hell we dont even talk about it in the mainstream media anymore. WTF 

i am telling you, dont listen to those sold scientists who only focus on subjects that pays alot (and are advertised by the media a lot more - obviously because of the money they generate) but arent as critical as many other.

lol

?! this means that the first countries which will provide a clear and fair frame for it instead of banning it are likely to boost their economies. thats all.

yes i get that red tape damage. but i dont think we could escape it, even with bitcoin. and it is also arguable that 'mass' adoption (ie Bitcoin's worldwide success) will follow some regulation frame as people will feel more secured about it (which is also debatable). i guess you just have to make some sacrifice sometimes

dont take it too seriously as i believe he is just some bored early adopter (no offense, i totally get it and would probably act the same) who went on to the same boring discussion every time BTC price x10 and new comers flood the forum with more anxiety and questions. nothing will happen, the price shall certainly move up again, but not for now as we entered some consolidation of the previous rise and it could take some time, which is totally normal. just stop seeing signs, sit tight and enjoy the ride.

hodlers

      .                 low 800 vs up 800

so hum, what "should" happen when reaching the end of the triangle?

yeahh nahhh i think this fbi dump have been argued enough (and considering its not even relevant). what i am interested in is to interpretate this figure: is it the end of a trend? is what will happen after a complete mystery? 50/50 rally or crash? support test complete?




you wish

seems we are not going back over 800 pretty much soon.

wanna bet?

edit: to me, it is just the confirmation of a downtrend. the market is overvaluating bitcoin whislt anticipating every single good news and it knows it, hence the correction drop to sub800.

haha yeah thats quite true

stamp is surely awake. dumpsters on the move.

edit: arg bought back at 780 thinking it was cheap enough. might be wrong.  what do i do? what do i do? waht do i dooo?!!

i am starting an association.



feel free to support us (me): 13yKnhCJosBNpsdSiZta6daL1jvF7p2NZU

we need more charts

Dear Google... consider yourself warned.

http://www.coindesk.com/could-bitcoin-surpass-google-market-cap/

lol bulls are back in here!! great time to shotr i'd say

boooring  

need some action!!


http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/01/navette-depart.gif

all we need is some whales to wake up.

Personally I start shotr a bit when bulls post all these pics in this thread and I start buying back whenever bears take over and post scary s**t...
works just fine so far

@Bull1692 thank you sir! just switched it as my new wallpaper

thx i loled big time sell sell sell!

i dont like this word 'bubble' it could mean anything yet nothing... internet also was considered a bubble and it crashed.. but look at where it is now!

yes indeed:




I am not talking about adoption.. bitcoin users surely only increase over time too.

edit: you can also note that 6 years increase followed by 2 years down.. which 'could' quite fit bitcoin's situation right now...

 

if it break the 3 days pattern i am afraid the panic is going to be huge..

thats the magic


OMG OMG OMG 

indeed, before being bullish or bearish, people are much more rational than they think we it comes to their money.

yeah but at some point these 'bulls' will loose their patience since no new money will come in (considering bears that keep on shorting) and they will be even more sensitive to quick dips, turning them eventually into big drops.  

Oh i think you misunderstood what i was trying to say.

But first understand this: i did not invest a single penny on BTC before having not a single doubt left about it (and the time to research the subject), so i can be referred to as 'fully bullish' on the mid/long term.

Now what i was trying to say is that it is somehow like "a dog chasing its tail" when considering bears and bulls on the short term and especially after a recent surge in the price. IMO the problem is that bulls are mostly impatients whereas bears are not.
Altough we all already know how bitcoin is going to be wonderful over the next years with lots of new things, it still isn't enough to make it surge any time soon (seems to me the price is actually artificially kept whislt no 'new' money push it up). Why? Because we need time to really take it to the next level (for example, whenever bitcoin will be accepted by even 2% (?!) of merchants worldwide).
So bears should win this short term (next two months maybe?) 'mental fight' with bulls. Or they should not. But i figure considering both views is relevant, if not wise. So i am 50/50 $$/BTC because it's also nice to take profit anyway



edit: + this

i'd rather think we are about there when considering Amazon

at some registered stockbroker in your country i guess

meanwhile, in china..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-22/chinas-first-default-coming-heres-what-expect

 

What doesnt kill bitcoin makes it stronger.

plus i wouldnt want to mess with all the silicon valley VCs which are investing more and more money into Bitcoin landscape. Poker sites are just irrelevant. Its a game, not a technology.

The US National Debt has continued to increase an average of $2.49 billion per day since sept 30 2012... good luck in finding that too

edit: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

yeah it is true that chinese people have that 'thing' when it comes to gamble.. i am more of a chess player.

red colored: LOL

green colored: TRUST in the Bitcoin network creates wealth. the more users = the more secure = the more monayyy

stamp isnt that much moving anyway

imho its just a matter of mass interpretation. no need to get the right information, the market should move before it even gets it. after all, we, humans, are mostly led by our emotions.

where do you see that?!

its nonsense if all the BTCs go in and out the same wallet.

100s BTC wall at Y0,01 difference ^^

has this been taken seriously in mainstream medias???!!!

WTF LOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA    

prudhon is a fu**ing legend!

CONFIRMED

for the fanatics... ^^

what does "bitcoin days destroyed" mean exactly???

I really dont like these Winklevossies. It seems they only try to make more money outta other people hard work and with daddy's money. They dont see the interest in bitcoin but only that grabbing 1% of it all would make them richer. They just pretend to be so smart but they just seems to get f**cking second if not last all the time.

ergo Zuckerberg ditched them
ergo Satoshi (and even FBI) got way more BTCs than they can ever dream of
ergo them ETF is far from opening.
ergo i wont consider a single news related to them as they mean nothing.

@JorgeStolfi pretty impressive piece of work there. i think you made quite a point altough a forecast between $300 - 2200 by feb/22 is quite reasonable and easy to apprehend.. but +1 for the demonstration

you got me

BINGO!

lmao, good one chartbuddy

so i guess it is also valid for bitcoin? there is still a huge margin for its popularity to soar

if what they need is unlimited supply they can just keep going with $$

so hum... has everyone shotr now?

What i dont understand is why Gox isnt comuunicating clearly on the fact that they still have all the BTC from its customers. Clearly Gox should have millions of BTC in cold storage just because of being the historical trading plateform. I wouldnt be surprised if they give the BTC back to its customers. However, it seems some people are taking advantage of this excessive FUD about Gox being insolvent in BTC. Its not because they *can't* give the BTCs back that they necessarily *don't* have them anymore.

are we going to have that same rebound at 630 on stamp or are we going lower

ok now i'm convinced. buy buy buy

Anyone remember the whale that dumped 10k BTC on stamp just before the GOX crash?
Could what we've seen today be some other insider trading in anticipation of good news??

lmao. bulls. 

like if you have any idea where your money goes, what you buy, what you eat or how i dont give a fuck about you and your miserable trolling here. get a life.

why doesnt everybody just withdraw their btc from the exchanges, causing some critical shortage? lets unite to the moon!

and dump.

i think a lot of people will get burned by christmas..

the real story about bitcoin:



bears..

enrich its creators. exclusively.

Bitcoin is so yesturday..

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/

RIP


edit: sell sell sell you morons!

the race to replace bitcoin is on, mofos: http://observer.com/2015/02/the-race-to-replace-bitcoin/

lol wut?

Mmurica' Fuck yeah!!

im @ $2,25

yea cuz noobs rather have ks of litecoins for the same price of barely 5btc.

wait wut?

Why does people keep on yapping that Blockstream does not want bigger blocks? Its is a fundamental for their project to catch on.

ALL core devs, including gavin, big VCed corporations like Jgarzik's Bitpay, large private mining ops a la Bitfury etc, they all want bigger blocks to make Bitcoin THEIR little centralized toy and exclude "small" miners/nodes/people.

Ya'll been mindfucked. This is hilarious.

It will kill Bitcoin's fundamentals.

On the contrary, whilst I may agree with part of what you say, I for one, sincerely believe that NOONE has or should have any power over Bitcoin. That is what makes its value.

Hence the decentralized consensus them businessmen are trying to catch, BEFORE THE NETWORK GROWS TO MUCH, and makes it nearly impossible to change anything. That is why the rush. But there is none actually, it is just mainstream propaganda, and y'all falling for it.

Max Keizer seeing through the XT coup and all the lame attempts of the bank cartels to minimize Bitcoin in the light of the "Blockchain technology":

https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/317750-episode-max-keiser-819/

Sure, you should stick with Fox News.

Wrong, in the attempt of a miner/pool coup, the coin would just drop to 0 as trust in the (trustless) system would be seriously hampered.

May I remind you how BTC's price reacted when Ghash.io had 50% of the network? It crashed.

Hence, this is what the decentralized consensus mechanism implies: no one, from the devs to the nodes and miners (businesses being irrelevant) shall succeed going rogue or ultimately the users dump it all.

Thats right, that is the beauty of Bitcoin, they wouldnt dare.

Or else they loose money.

Hmyea, was just "Hype" to shave the consumerist sheeps and their VC lords.

Now, as the global financial crisis looms, back to the serious business of ensuring the robustness and inalienability of the network.

Time to "reassess" the blocksize will be when tx fee > block reward.

Yes, next halving looks promising, that is why any attempt in increasing anything before that is highly toxic if not blatantly suicidal.

Miners revenues are mandatory to ensure the network's security.

While the block reward tends to 0, it is natural for a fee market to emerge, or else there would not be any incentives left for the miners to keep spending the resources that a POW system requires.

Meanwhile, you can enjoy transacting for nearly nothing.

+1 This is Sovereignty.

Power to the people.

This is the purpose of the "artificial" restriction: prevent spamming and hence, allowing a fee market to emerge... naturally.

If no restriction in supply (as it also goes with the 21m cap), then there would not be any incentives for miners to pursue their amazing stacking of hashpower... which in the end ensures the system security.

Hum.. so you prefer the USA Quantitative Easing approach maybe? Free money right?

Seriously, again, basically I would not disagree to reassess when tx fee > block rewards.

Not prior, nor with some out of thin air (to stay polite) data and projections about adoption or whatever other metrics or implementations that lacks the fundamentals to what a decentralized POW trustless system should be.

Start with there is no "thousands of transactions a second and $30k-$70k coins" as of now, in reality y' know..

You not happy already freely spamming a network that takes a difficulty of 60,813,224,039 and 456,026,187 GH/s?

Show some gratitude young man, now where is the mass adoption thing kicking in again?

Indeed, the masters of the multialtoverse are here:




Edit: Impressive.

So the caping is preventing utility? Or "mass adoption" maybe?

What is actually forcing miners to spend millions to secure a system that should not be as powerful?

Seriously, you need to take a deep breath.

And provide all the invasive KYC details to the almighty NYC regulators.

I'd vote for "wannabes".

Simple, glorious & elegant.

There is much more money to be made on the down side.

Let the financial crisis come, bails in and out, neg interest rates, credit bubbles pop and domestic markets collapse.

Cheap cheap BTC incoming.

Thx WS.

Prices set by these exchanges have always been manipulated, whether by inhouse operators, loaded early adopters or now HFT sharks.

It does not mean such prices are relevant in the first place.

14m btc x 1/2 Exahash would give us an invaluable bitcoin already.

Bitcoin is not some securities.
You'd still be in full control of the ones you own.
21m cap and high network security is the deal, the rest is noise so just let the maniacs do what they always do.

Heh, to commodities regulators, bitcoin is a commodity, to bank regulators, it's a bank, to stock regulators, it's a stock.

Everyone wants "in". Obviously.

Dat gif.

Dat bulltrap.

Voice of reason.