All posts made by vdcc in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread
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Post 3920164 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
What did you believed , that each of us will have 0.0x bitcoins and we could all be rich?
No more people starving , no more forests cut in the Amazon?
This ain't a tool to reach utopia and never was.
It's important to consider what kind of people those 927 individuals are, and how they're likely to spend their money.
To wit: are they more likely to steer the world in direction you'd like to see than today's global elite?
Besides, only about half of the total bitcoins are yet in circulation. Their holdings will be diluted and the coins will be better spread out going forward.
Who said that's a 927 people? That's a 927 wallets addresses, maybe owned by a 50-100 individuals, who knows?
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Post 3923531 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
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Post 3923629 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
They didn't receive bitcoins, but USD. Read the article
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Post 3936688 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
btcCHN above Gox... CHOO CHOO?
It's going down, slowly. Come on, it's obvius. There will be no choo-choos for a while
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Post 3937725 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
"rally" from 850 to 900...
then back to 800
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Post 3938410 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
In fairness you do have a point. But if anything, some of us who aren't good at trading have bad memories from April - and also no urge to sell coins.
If you don't sell it doesn't mean that price will not drop
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Post 3938507 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
In fairness you do have a point. But if anything, some of us who aren't good at trading have bad memories from April - and also no urge to sell coins.
If you don't sell it doesn't mean that price will not drop
If price drops it dosnt mean he wont get to spend like a king later
Yeah, but if price drops to 500-600, it's better to sell now and buy when it's low. That way he can have both coins and extra $$$...
It's clearly not gonna go up from 850-900, where it's now
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Post 3940598 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
1 hour and China wakes up...
and btc price goes down
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Post 3940846 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.36h):
probably tonight
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Post 3941405 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
So what is gonna be, 3=2 or 3=1 ?
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Post 3941799 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
Nice to see that this up movement is pushed by small buys and not big ones... "small" money which hit the exchanges in last two weeks is finaly awake?
Those are bots
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Post 3941918 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
550 HP on the back two tires.... seems a bit insane.
Lambos are 4x4
Nice to see that this up movement is pushed by small buys and not big ones... "small" money which hit the exchanges in last two weeks is finaly awake?
Those are bots
On btcchina... for sure... But stamp and gox? Few for sure... but not all.
keep seeing 0.006, 0.001, 0.009, 0.0033, 0.0055 on stamp and 0.011, 0.050, 0.401, 0.032, etc. on gox...
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Post 3941993 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
f*ck the 2)
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Post 3943106 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
It's going down to 900, it's a trap
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Post 3943183 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
gox is all 0.010, 0.250 etc
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Post 3949609 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
hmm
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Post 3955496 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.37h):
I really believe that Risto is seriously trolling in here. It's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to predict ANYTHING for sure into such a system like BTC. A serious prediction of ANY chaotic system (not one like we're observing here, which may as well be the mother of all chaotic systems) would have been in the timeframe of minutes or hours at max, not days; nor weeks.
I'm interested in short-term predictions, like for next hour or so
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Post 4017668 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.41h):
lol at noobs following btcchina ..... didnt they hear the news?
What are you following, gox? Didn't you hear the news?
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Post 4027264 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
There are still cheap coins left in China
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Post 4027386 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
There are still cheap coins left in China
Would love to buy in China but I don't have an account or any fiat there so... impossible!
many cheap coins in China = cheap coins everywhere = this is not over yet
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Post 4031477 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
It's not gonna happen, 3rd party processors are forbidden. At best they will end up in jail
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Post 4034815 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
Wonder what is causing the selling.
Fear of what will happen when China wakes???
It is 9:00 am in China, is that bank opening time? Cybercafe opening time?
Trade volume on BTC-China spiked and price fell sharply by 100-150 CNY.
It's naive to think that regular people owns majority of coins there...
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Post 4035915 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.42h):
Bots (and their patterns) will take over the world...
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Post 4045131 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.43h):
Don't have to be verified to deposit btc.
But have to be to withdraw (and that's the goal)
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Post 4065065 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
bots = trolls
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Post 4067534 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
I rode that bump from 600-640 (BTCE) but am mostly out again. I don't know what the hell is going on.
Bots took over, that's what's going on
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Post 4072999 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.44h):
Can they withdraw (to chinese bank acc) from another exchange at all?
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Post 4075985 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):
There's no reason why it's impossible we can keep going up, the trend needs to be broken at some point. A few weeks back lots of people were saying that a major retailer adopting bitcoin was the thing that was needed for higher prices. Now it's happened, but everyone is still reeling from China and expecting impending doom.
What happened?
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Post 4076424 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):
There's no reason why it's impossible we can keep going up, the trend needs to be broken at some point. A few weeks back lots of people were saying that a major retailer adopting bitcoin was the thing that was needed for higher prices. Now it's happened, but everyone is still reeling from China and expecting impending doom.
What happened?
Overstock will accept bitcoin, not exactly eBay or Amazon, but it's making news in the US.
Aha, so they
will accept (next year), maybe. You said 'it's happened' (already) and that's not the same, ergo irrelevant 'till it happens
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Post 4078659 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.45h):
something like a dump?
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Post 4141094 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.46h):
Enough with the voodoo and doing lines off a chart. It would be much more effective to do some digging and find out fundamentals like:
1. Is huobi legit and not a fake pump with mostly fake volume.
2. How many actual btc are entering huobi and getting bought up by new investors.
3. How much new fiat is entering chinese exchanges.
4. If/when the Chinese government will crack down on the latest evasion of their rules.
By the way litecoin is coincidentally being pumped starting last night, due to sudden volume on okcoin, a chinese exchange which has been found to have fake volume...
1. why would they be?
2. don't know, see 1.
3. same as 2.
4. probably in a week or so
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Post 4160960 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):
You know, the Chinese are probably speculating as much about us as we about them.
Likely to be true.
I've lived in what used to be called 'the Far East' and visited Hong Kong and some of the other places, including what was once called 'IndoChina'. At the risk of painting a very large portion of our planetary populace with an overly large brush, most of the Asians I have had contact with love to gamble.
BTC is a fun way for them to gamble.
Actually BTC is stupid and slow way to gamble, almost everything else is much more tempting
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Post 4161143 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):
Actually BTC is stupid and slow way to gamble, almost everything else is much more tempting
At 0300 in your PJ's?
Yup, eg. online poker, roulette, or my favourite - spread/handicap betting (50% chance, usually 85% profit)
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Post 4161852 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.47h):
Does anyone else think this rise is lacking significant volume?
Ever since 18 November, the only time that there is above average volume is when it is selling off. All the buying is being done by stealth, one coin at a time.
Or through back-room deals off-exchange...
But that wouldn't cause the price to go up...
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Post 4227881 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
I love it how you just disregard everything and oversimplify things.
I'll say it again in case you haven't read it: Recognizing something is not the same as identifying its purpose.
Which means NO, I don't see its effects and can automatically extrapolate all the information needed. No one can. What makes you the oracle?? "Then I will help you determine why".. Really??? Where do you get off?? Who made you trader of the century?
"This isn't rocket science." so you must be a multi-millionaire right? right??
I encourage you to use you're amazing foresight skills in other fields: see Cancer, extrapolate, Cancer defeated, profit. See quantum forces, extrapolate, time travel achieved, profit.
I read all of your posts and enjoy them, but this "know it all, EZ mode" attitude I cannot understand. I know you're a intelligent person.
Just answer me this with your most honest point of view: is there manipulation in Bitcoin markets?
a) Yes
b) No
Because that is what it boils down. I don't truly believe you, an intelligent person from what I've seen in your posts, thinks there is NO (and it means NO, not a single shred) manipulation.
Lol. So this secret manipulation, it always works against you?
Disregard everything and just answer with a stupid question?
You didn't answer my question.
I'll take that as "a) Yes, plus I'm too proud to admit it".
And it's no secret either, you just choose to blindly ignore and disregard (quite the modus operandi you've got there).
Manipulation, yes? Are you talking about someone happily selling to a happy buyer? Or are you talking about someone happily buying from a happy seller?
Yes, but happy buyer and happy seller are probably the same person/company/bot.
Or are you talking about someone using fraud or violence to aquire coins or fiat?
No violence, but fraud yes. If you pump/dump coins (or even fake volume and trades) for financial gain, then you are defrauding honest traders.
Maybe you are talking about trading for the effect, like selling a lot to lower the price, then take advantage of that? Well that may be forbidden in some markets, but not with bitcoin, and we don't want it to be.
Maybe you don't want it to be, but i do.
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Post 4230198 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
But is not your concept extremely broad? Would not that mean that every used-car salesmen who pushes a bit too hard is fraudulent?
If he lies about mileage and/or general condition of a car, of course he is a fraudster
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Post 4230383 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
Bitcoin exchanges that are not controlled or regulated could be the major problem for bitcoin's future. Think about it - you need a site, bank account(s) for deposits/withdrawals, decent SW (engine, bots, etc.) and a relatively small amount of coins (for start). Everything else you can fake - volume, trades, transactions between accounts. You (your SW actually) could trade all day, buy/sell thousands of coins for millions of dollars without a single $ spent, push price up or down - wherever you want, and just collect the money/coins that suckers (regular people, investors, traders, speculators, miners, etc.) lost because of your actions.
And that makes me sick
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Post 4244454 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
Have you heard about the huge of donations that flooded Philippines after the typhoon? Believe it or not. Many of the funds were missing and the places that has been devastated is still misserable. Even the donations has been taxed. I wonder if it's still the same scene if the donations was sent in bitcoin instead. We don't have any taxation laws for intangible goods yet.
I think the odds would be better as they could be received by organisers in the destination country instead of some western middleman scam charity.
btw, check out what bill gates invests in to help the world..
http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation_exposed/31334/0/38/38/Y/M.htmlSo?
They invested in successfull companies/corporations (to preserve what they have in fondation and earn more $$$).
You invested in Bitcoin, not in Junkcoin.
It's the same
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Post 4246146 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.49h):
I don't see any significant amount of Wall Street money anywhere near bitcoin before some serious regulation...
Maybe some small, high-risk funds, but nothing serious (tens of billions or something like that).
They always play safe
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Post 4419471 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):
And nobody cares, cause China is about to almost completely ban bitcoin, which will crash price to 300-400
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Post 4419739 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):
And nobody cares, cause China is about to almost completely ban bitcoin, which will crash price to 300-400
Yeah yeah, nobody cares about China anymore, everybody knows they will unban it later, move on....
Ha ha, ok, we'll se in two weeks
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Post 4419837 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):
And nobody cares, cause China is about to almost completely ban bitcoin, which will crash price to 300-400
Yeah yeah, nobody cares about China anymore, everybody knows they will unban it later, move on....
Ha ha, ok, we'll se in two weeks
We'll see in two years
You're complaining about lack of interest for Overstock news (extremely short-term) and now talking long term?!
You can't mix apples and oranges and be taken seriously
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Post 4420098 (copy this link) (by vdcc) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.54h):
As others have pointed out, people buying things with bitcoins (whether through Bitpay or similar service, as seems to be generally the case, or by direct barter) is the same thing as selling them. Besides acting to lower the price of bitcoin, that is the opposite of "hodling", right?
Ordinary people still have no reason to use bitcoins (rather than old money) to buy things on retailers like Overstock. So that option should not bring more old money (USD etc) to the Bitcoin market.
Speculators and miners who want to leave the Bitcoin game now have the option to cash out in merchandise (at a few merchants) rather than in old money. That only makes it a bit easier for them to decide to leave, and hence take old money out of the market.
So the Overstock news is "good news" only for True Believers, who did not need it to believe anyway...
Yep. Although spending coins (selling them for $) through Bitpay or Overstock-Coinbase is better (longterm, for bitcoin as a currency) than hodling.