All posts made by Carlor in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 3611431 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: jzcjca00 on November 17, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
$500!!!!

looks like the chinese were later after all...

I think the impact of demand from China is overblown.  The volume in China is driven by day traders because of the 0% commission rate.  I think new U.S. investors with deep pockets are behind most of the recent price increase.

If I were given to conspiracy theories, I would think that the media was scheming to link the price of Bitcoin to made-up Chinese demand, expecting the Chinese government to outlaw Bitcoin, thus creating a big crash.
1) Any reason for your first assumption?
2) Why on earth should the Chinese government outlaw Bitcoins? It's a gift from heaven for Chinese economics. It might get like the nuclear bomb of international economics.



2. Post 3612847 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: haightst on November 17, 2013, 03:09:30 PM
could someone call China and tell them to stop buying? they are trying to hoard all our bitcoins!  Grin *look*>>


http://fiatleak.com/
Why? I love to see China getting involved in big numbers.
A lot of bitcoins in China is better than a lot of bitcoins in the USA Smiley
US folks may start gathering all the whitelisted coins lol



3. Post 3624900 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: ardana123 on November 18, 2013, 03:58:41 PM
Trying to decide whether to sell everything I own for bitcoin. What do you guys think I should do?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin

Do it.



4. Post 3624965 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: Coinseeker on November 18, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
Litcoin breaks $7!  The whole crypt-currency space is going parabolic.   Grin
To the mooon!  Grin Grin Grin



5. Post 3625119 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: mb300sd on November 18, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
My productivity these last few days has been 0... All free time is spent staring at charts.
Haha. Sounds familiar Cheesy
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Do you have a bot that posts words to this effect eevry 3 hours?  Getting really boring!
Apparently somebody regrets selling all his btc's at 200 $ Cheesy



6. Post 3625366 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: maz on November 18, 2013, 04:47:50 PM
Why are you comparing regular models with Bitcoin? Why is this a bubble and not a mass adoption somewhere on Earth? What are the differences? How do you know now there are just people rushing in and not wider bitcoin usage?
Usage where and for what? I'm open to that notion but I have no news of such possibility. For what use are they being adopted that I'm unaware of?

It seems that the most of the traffic comes from China. I bet you don't know anything about China and why are they using Bitcoin right now. Until you find out you can't emit any statement because you just don't know. There can be several reasons. Maybe the communist party doesn't allow people to have more than X amount of cash on their possesion, maybe it's hard to move money there, maybe maybe maybe.

Edit: made a quick google search and found this "China employs strict currency regulations that are designed to prevent large amounts of currency moving out of the country" So there is a real use there if that's still the case. I bet there can be many more that for us maybe are useless.

Say it's half investment/hoarding and a large part currency exchange, purchase on BTC-China, transfer to stamp and withdraw USD. Either way if the Chinese government decide they don't like it then there will be problems. Your right though, we don't know what's being said in the upper echelons of the Chinese government. Is this a convenient tool for them to undermine the dollar? But why apply such strict regulations to the yuan and then let your subject's flaunt those rules?

China isn't America, so if the shit hit's the fan, people will be less Bitcoin-rambo as heads roll when the government say so.
If there is anyone with a brain in the communist party, China will not take any kind of action against bitcoins.
If I were a Chinese leader I would praise the great Satoshi Cheesy



7. Post 3627310 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.24h):

Quote from: dani on November 18, 2013, 07:22:49 PM

I made this one for you, so we can talk again about the wave we ride on.

http://i.imgur.com/yQn3aGG.png

Hehe Smiley Best BTC chart I've seen so far.
Waiting for the hint, that it has to be logarithmic!!!!!



8. Post 3639876 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Blocksize needs to be resized asap.
Bitcoin will become mainstream soon and its value depends on fast and cheap transactions.




9. Post 3640243 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 19, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
Blocksize needs to be resized asap.
Bitcoin will become mainstream soon and its value depends on fast and cheap transactions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZp7UGgBR0I

exactly, thank you
It is sad, that bitcoin users might destroy bitcoins with this bullshit.
If you want to have a worldwide currency, that is actually USED, you will need better infrastructure than a C64.
Decentralised doesn't mean you can use your gameboy.
1 mb is definitely to small. Look at the visa transactions.
And we will need a change soon. Or the dream will be over faster than you think.



10. Post 3640704 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.25h):

Quote from: jojo69 on November 19, 2013, 05:10:48 PM

It is sad, that bitcoin users might destroy bitcoins with this bullshit.



bullshit like not recreating the system we have now?   mmmmmk

you want your transaction in? pay the fee, supply and demand, this is what keeps mining profitable going forward
I have no problem with transactions.
But the current blocksize combined with the vision of worldwide, cheap payments is not possible. In no way. You will make Bitcoin to some kind of WOW gold instead of a working currency.
Mining would still be profitable, don't fight ghosts.
Bitcoin is not thought to go to 10k$ and buy you a nice yacht and then die. It is thought to be an international, usable currency



11. Post 3655237 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: Wekkel on November 20, 2013, 07:51:53 PM
Currency of the future. My payment of xx:18 still has 0 confirmations at xx:51. Sorry I could not dump you sooner, my coins
This is why bitcoin might die soon. Because there are to many people who don't understand, that the value of bitcoin is based on the promise of fast and cheap transactions. They dream of some kind of electric gold and this will make bitcoin drop to zero.
If you can't pay your 3$ coffee without an 3$ fee, bitcoin is worth shit.



12. Post 3655474 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: oda.krell on November 20, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
Currency of the future. My payment of xx:18 still has 0 confirmations at xx:51. Sorry I could not dump you sooner, my coins
This is why bitcoin might die soon. Because there are to many people who don't understand, that the value of bitcoin is based on the promise of fast and cheap transactions. They dream of some kind of electric gold and this will make bitcoin drop to zero.
If you can't pay your 3$ coffee without an 3$ fee, bitcoin is worth shit.

every damn time. what happened to good old "lurk moar"? here's your answer: the (highly secure) blockchain is most likely not the ideal medium for micro transfers, and probably not even for small-ish transactions like paying for your coffee. That doesn't mean Bitcoin will fail, it only means there will be ways to perform smaller transaction off the chain.
The highly secure blockchain is the right medium for small transfers. You will have to have the possibility to buy every day stuff with your smartphone with bitcoin, or it will die. Period. Off-the-chain is the most stupid shit I heard the last weeks.
Everybody is talking about regulations, senate hearings, peeing their pants whether the Chinese will accept bitcoins or whatever. But the real thread are the users/speculators who think you have to have the whole blockchain in your pocket.
Bitcoin has the ultimate chance to replace visa etc..
7 Billion people with 1-5 transactions a day, that should be the goal of bitcoin.
If this is not going to be implemented the next months I will sell out and watch one of the greatest projects in our time die.



13. Post 3655807 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

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Guys, you heard it from [Date Registered: November 15, 2013, 01:22:48 PM], show's over. See you at the next Ponzi.
That's a brilliant argumentation.
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I agree, especially given how freaking smart his math is... here we go, lets take the billions of people that don't have access to clean water, sanitation, fresh food, healthcare or a bank account... ok so should we count them in for 3 transactions... sounds good... next, the thing to do is.. excuse me (*leaves room, shoots face off with shotgun*)
Ok, Mr. Smart. afaik we have 6.250.000 million visa transactions per hour. This is about 1700 transactions per second, right? So look at the 7 (!) transactions per second for bitcoin and then get your shotgun.
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Yea, here I have been buying bitcoins since 2011 thinking it would be the future of money and then this guy appears out of no where and totally blows my mind and makes me realize that it's all over, it will die if it can't facilitate 7 billion people in the next months. Man, how things can change.
It can be the future of money. And it needs a change soon.

But if you want to keep watching bubbles after bubbles the next 1 1/2 - 2 years until the party is over because people didn't understand the difference between WOW gold and bitcoins, please keep ignoring the facts Smiley



14. Post 3655928 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

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The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the
minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions,
and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non-
reversible services.

This is one of the reasons for bitcoins.  http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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I think we're looking at it the wrong way. Maybe bitcoin isn't destined to become a currency, but something else. It's deflationary, has no consumer protection, transfers are irrevocable and no identities are tied to the addresses. How can this ever become a currency?
This is the problem. People just look at the all time highs and become to blind to see, that all that is just coming from the promise of a cheap, reliable and fast transaction system. Not because bitcoin is the new world of warcraft gold. Pleeease get that into your heads. Please.


Bitcoins are worthless if they are just stored.

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Bitcoin was never going to be a universal, flattened currency. Never—ever. That is not it's niche in a monetary ecosystem. Bitcoin is a risk distributor, just one part of an emerging monetary ecosystem.
Bullshit. Read the bitcoin paper and come back.

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Bitcoin is super silver.


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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
AAAAAH . Are you people really that stupid??? Please go and buy Second Life Dollars and WOW Gold.
You know why bitcoin has a value at the moment? Because it promises to be a worldwide currency. Not because Satoshi is such a nice name or because somebody wants to have them just for having them.
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15. Post 3656045 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: dasein on November 20, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.

How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount...

I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer.

maybe water?


Bitcoin is a protocol and a technology; it's just a layer, not necessarily the layer that directly touches the end-user. It's the many bitcoin businesses that emerge that will leverage the bitcoin technology directly and provide a consumer friendly service to deliver a wide variety of financial products and services, and compete with each other to solve all problems relating to transaction time, security, etc.
I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit.

The first goal of bitcoin should be to be able to handle the same amount of transactions as visa.
And it is 1700 visa transactions vs 7 possible bitcoin transactions.
I don't understand why so many don't want to see that problem. Still high from the last ath?
Bitcoin is not gold.



16. Post 3656280 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: TheKoziTwo on November 20, 2013, 09:31:45 PM
The first goal of bitcoin should be to be able to handle the same amount of transactions as visa.
And it is 1700 visa transactions vs 7 possible bitcoin transactions.
I don't understand why so many don't want to see that problem. Still high from the last ath?
Bitcoin is not gold.
Bitcoin is not gold, it's gold 2.0. The whole point of bitcoin is to have money that are decentralized so that government cannot control it. By increasing the blocksize limit too much you will lose that decentralization as the blockchain becomes hosted at few, centralized servers. We don't want such control point, therefore the limit must be increased in accordance to the technological development. We have plenty of time before we need bitcoin to do anything near the volume of VISA. And it certainly isn't the first goal. Bitcoin is first and foremost gold 2.0, and we can use it as a debt settlement mechanism.
Bitcoin is not gold 2.0.
If you had one node in every city in the world, it would be decentralized enough. There is no need for every single person to be a node. And this idea is in every scenario completely conflicting with the necessary for worldwide transactions.
There will be no trust in bitcoin if it loses it's obvious advantages over visa and co.
If you treat it like gold 2.0 it will be just another bullshit stuff like other "virtual currencies".

Take a look at the bitcoin paper and see, what one of the reasons for the bitcoin design was.

But whatever. This is offtopic anyways and we will see whether bitcoin will be destroyed by the gold gold gold idiots or if it excels because of its technical advantages.
I hope for the last and for some reason in the bitcoin community.



17. Post 3656360 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: deepceleron on November 20, 2013, 09:42:22 PM
I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit.

The first goal of bitcoin should be to be able to handle the same amount of transactions as visa.
And it is 1700 visa transactions vs 7 possible bitcoin transactions.
I don't understand why so many don't want to see that problem. Still high from the last ath?
Bitcoin is not gold.
Government currency comes with NO built-in means of transferring ownership. Payment networks operate on top of currencies by moving balances around in their own computers and then to bank account computers. (Do you really own money if it is just someone else's computer record saying you do?) Likewise it is expected that one emerging market is payment processors who handle your Bitcoin money for you when you want to spend it.

The paper money you can turn that account balance into has value only based on what you can trade it for. Government currencies mask volatility by printing more, but they can also create more money to devalue their own debts, to pay their bills, at the expense of long-term holders. I can no longer buy a car for $3000 or a hair cut for $0.25.

When the exchanges are less important to obtaining your initial Bitcoins, and merchants are willing to take 1 BTC for their product regardless of what number is showing on an exchange in another country, then you will see less volatility.

You forget, that you are obligated to accept government currency as a payment. Government currency has a huge advantage over others, it has a lot of force behind it.
Bitcoins advantages are technical and if you take that from bitcoin there is nothing left.
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You work towards bitcoin replacing Visa and take over the 'billions', the rest of us will aim towards replacing the international wire system and take over the trillions.
You know that most people here are just working at making some dollars with buying and selling.
Look at the bitcoin paper again and think what bitcoin was about. And then look at the stores accepting bitcoin and then think if there should be more.
I mean there are not a lot of stores, who accept gold transfers, so why would bitcoin need that...



18. Post 3656492 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.26h):

Quote from: Sword Smith on November 20, 2013, 10:04:34 PM
Bitcoins advantages are technical and if you take that from bitcoin there is nothing left.
Not true. One of bitcoins main advantages is that inflation is predictable. Maybe you understand the technical aspects of bitcoins but you do not seem to understand the problems with the current monetary situation or the political implications of Bitcoin.
This is wrong. Bitcoin lives from being  a worldwide currency. As soon as you are not able to pay anything with it, it will lose its value. Just because something is "rare" doesn't mean it hast value. I can print 10.000 sheets with "this is xymoney" on it and say they have a value because I just made 10k. But the don't.
And the same goes for bitcoin. Bitcoins value only stems from it's (promises of) advantages over other payment systems. Since the beginning.



19. Post 3678066 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.27h):

Quote from: ag@th0s on November 22, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Anybody know if there are any decent Charities that take Bitcoin yet for donations?  Like Greenpeace or WaterAid or Medecin sans frontiere or whatever?  I'd like to stick someone else's address in my sig.
E. Snowden maybe? Or Wikileaks?
But I would like to see more charities accepting btc, I mean it wouldn't be hard to implement and they could only win. Wrote to a few already but they don't want my btc, just my fiat.



20. Post 3771912 (copy this link) (by Carlor) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.30h):

Quote from: freethink2013 on November 29, 2013, 09:43:02 PM
The only worry I have is we're a market rather than an economy. We need to make 2014 the year when bitcoin destroys western union and is much more widely accepted for buying stuff. Remittance is the killer app.
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