this is why I STOPPED making losing trades

of course I trade pretty infrequently now...lol

Sure, you can mine a block, not publish it, and continue mining. But unless your pool has 51% of the network, the odds are the rest of the network will invalidate the block you are hiding, and then you've just lost a block and have to start over. It does nothing to harm the network, just yourself.

Wow this is great, thanks

What would be awesome is an animation over time in this format. If I ever become independently wealthy I'll work on it.

No Magic the Gathering

I think we will know when bitcoin has attracted too much attention when the US Government outlaw it. As in, anyone doing business in bitcoins is classified as a money transfer business and either has to get a licence or quit it. At the moment the wall street bankers are attracting most of the attention of Government trying to recoup some money from 2008 fiasco. But if bitcoin gains too much attention, and somehow is no longer is allowed in the USA, see how strong the coin will be then.

i'm in the us and am worried about this scenario. I assume the price would drop dramatically if the US tried to ban it, but if China and much of the world uses bitcoin, wouldn't the value simply spring back up?

I try not to keep any BTC anywhere which might enable me to panic and reaction sell, for this very reason (not so I can eat cheetos, however.  In fact, wtf are cheetos?)

$320....I vaguely remember there was a time when Bitcoin was $32, and many people thought it was overvalued afterwards and cannot happen again....must be like ages ago.

kicking myself for not having 3 times the coin and losing faith of the past 6 months. what an idiot, what can you do.

I think my new strategy is if this goes down to 100$ just buy more and hold. I fail at trading and bitstamp is my new home and is unreliable for trading anyway.

When do you think this gonna happen?

I went all in at 204, the bear in me died when I saw the move was so obviously coming

if history were to repeat itself (2011 high of $32, 2013 high of $266), just from a log graph perspective, what would be the next bubbles' ATH?

in other words, stable price->$32, then stable price->$266...

what was this bubbles' (if it is a bubble, i haven't a clue) stable price, and what would the top be if we only look at the previous two bubbles' stable->ATH?

just curious

link or it didn't happen!

I can't access http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD anymore, is that just me?

china seems to wake up in about 8 hours from now...

China doesn't seem to know what panic means, all this bear crap is making Bitcoin as tough as nails and multiple big markets are much stronger. This could go a long way.

I think the days of double digit bitcoins are over...

On the other hand. Prices in this range (and better market access being provided) enables some bigger shot investors to get into the game. The market can eat quite a few dollars for breakfast nowadays.

EDIT: bitcoin functions pretty well as a store-of-wealth. No need to be able to buy pizza at this point. It's however becoming increasingly possible to do so. (lieferservice.de, for example).

when no time frame is presented assume i'm talking short term (1 - 30days), this poll will change every few days.

too many chinese.  too few bitcoins.  someone is making a lot of money by selling for $350 in china and buying for $330 in europe.

when the chinese buyers decide to take a profit, you had best be headed the same direction, faster.

meanwhile, if the same number of bitcoin are bought in the lit market today as yesterday, then the price will go over 3000 yuan.
since that can't happen, either someone will buy the wall at usd 335 on bitstamp, and send it to btcchina, or else the dam will break tonight.

Am I wrtong to be expecting this to correct further now   

This is no crash.

Everyone is coldly calculating and waiting for a crash and cheap coins.

These are not the conditions for PANIC. I sometimes wonder and think we won't be seeing any more big panic runs for a few years.

Wow I'm glad I was full in fiat to catch some coins at $301 on Stamp. Sold again at $335 and now waiting to see what's next.

$250 by midnight EST
$189 by midnight Sunday EST

Can I have some kind of prize?  

Up 17% in btc stash over this weekend.   

Still puts me down since the large correction/"crash", like I assume most people.

btc-e going to hit 300 tonight by the looks of it (294 currently)

gox:332.5
stamp:314.5

bears: they don't justy shit in the woods they shit themselves everywhere.

where's the $1xx prices we were told about? huh bears?

$260 on Gox by Tuesday.

can barely transfer between legitimate businesses

I needed some parts from Belgium just a couple weeks ago, took them forever to figure out the new rules



shit is seriously fucked up

I'd rather be safe than sorry.  Selling all for now. 

Cancel sell orders. Withdraw bitcoins. Emptygox.

Another one, pirateat40 

aka.

TRENDON T SHAVERS
License number - 019295421
License type - DL
Address - 2305 S CUSTER APT 1507
DOB - Sep 21 1982
City/Zip - MCKINNEY 75070
2305 S Custer Rd Apt 1507
Mckinney,TX 75070-6222
(972) 369-0895



Yes, I'm starting to get sore about this again.

I'm trying to pay off the last of my school loans... It would take about $1800 to do so...donations would be grateful!

Or he could set up a scholarship for needy kids?

Ok maybe I'll keep one coin. But I found a flipper that I can put maybe 50k into an make 200k inside 3 months.

Definitely.

Looks like some insiders knew this whole day.

The idea of sub-500 coins horrifies me. Who could have ever thought we would descend so low?

I made 5btc just now on that correction.

heh power consumption being really really optimistic and selling at 600 bucks BTC at www.mtgox.com  minus the $7,131.80 USD I spent w/shipping (and not counting power supply)for the KNC Jupiter i have....I'm under those more then rosy conditions at 21 coins @$12,600 USD....minus $7131.80 that is $5,468.20 ahead and I'll have been mining 1 month tomorrow 11/18 as of 8:30pm CST USA.....as for electric it is a bit less then 100 bucks I think around 80 bucks but call it 100 cause I've been home a lot babysitting miner and giggling so more use on other computers and such this month

of course it will all go boom and I will probably be looking at 1/2 ROI on Monday after the U.S. House hearings ...or some such bad news...but hey that works too for 1 month of mining I have a Jupiter hashing 555gh consistent ..just put the new firmware on now 0.99 its hashing at around 564gh consistent....

heh been a good nite for me at least in the delusions of my own mind (yeah we are all insane it is only real variable that is constant in all this)

Searing


p.s. er as I ordered the Jupiter on July 1st I think BTC was 60 bucks or some such yeah better of getting BTC direct I would have been but no body imho noob wise jumps in with 7k or more in speculation...we always start with equipment...now in the future with how asic mnfg stuff trickles out etc etc I may change my tune but this is what I seem to hear how most start in bitcoin with miners (or did back in the early early days of summer 2013....)
 

stamp 510
gox 600 (+17,5%)
china 635 (+24,5%)

That's big

Since what happened tonight, I need a new one too...

/\675 ARE WE ARE PUSHING TO /\900+ TODAY? WOW     UNREAL!!!!

I guess we reached the tipping point, no single digits ever again unless BTC is going straight to 0.

no.

if we go past 722 I will rebuy.

That something is most likely they were born in a country where only the wealthy earn that much in a year.  Unfortunately, billions of people still fall in that category.  Seriously guys, extrapolation from Europe/North America to anyone/everyone is a sure fire way to look like a retard on the internet.

I have never gotten a "tip" but I figure I have not had any posts worth of one.

Now I suppose if I could come up with some heart wrenching story?

The only story I have right now is that our new dog we got for our daughter (she begged for one and we picked one up at a shelter) is not the "Italian Greyhound Mix" that they said it was and it seems to actually be part Pit bull.  My father-in-law lives behind us and does not like our new dog.  He is a bit of a grumpy old man and has instigated things so now our new little dog is out to get him and he accidentally got out and then bit his hand.  So we were afraid that we would have to give up the dog which caused many tears around here.    It is especially sad because the little dog is just frightened of the mean grandpa and acting out of instinct.  We have decided to install a $800 fence/dog run in the backyard instead that will at least serve as another level of protection for the dog and grandpa.  So our sob story is that we cannot buy anymore Bitcoin.  We have to buy a fence to keep our little shelter dog.  Or find a new home for Grandpa! (this would require much more than $800 though)  Bitcoin tips accepted.

This is all true, but probably still not tip worthy!  LOL

I gave 0.01BTC to a friend last night. It took less than 2 minutes for him to install a wallet on his phone, me to initiate the transaction and get 1 confirmation.

I suggest everyone who can do something similar

Anybody know if there are any decent Charities that take Bitcoin yet for donations?  Like Greenpeace or WaterAid or Medecin sans frontiere or whatever?  I'd like to stick someone else's address in my sig.

oh dear, it's the weekend. No more money in until Monday

I may have read somewhere (here?) that Chinese banks are open on Saturdays though...

In fairness to TERA, it looks like an approximately 30% (ok maybe 40%) drop on his diagram.

Yes they're just speculations.

This is bitcoin.

The minute you think you know something, you don't.

Why is the buy/sell price on Coinbase higher than both gox and bitstamp?

Walsoraj, you were predicting a crash to single digits when we were at 150USD....its hardly prophetic to keep predicting a fall when there are only three directions a market can go in.

The exponential trend line is a myth. Media awareness may grow at an exponential rate at first, but there is a "hype" effect that will cause it to eventually depart the exponential trajectory.

I believe we are seeing that now: all time Google Trends high, it is showing up regularly on network news, etc. It's not reasonable to assume that we can go from occasional web journalism to news networks without departing the trend.

Also, the amount invested by every individual joining the ecosystem will grow over time, since there's an intangible measure of "trustworthiness" Bitcoin gains by surviving each successive bubble.

Trend lines are fantastic predictors of the past, but their predictive power for the future is not so simple; you are drawing this trend, then assuming that the trend is created by some fundamental mechanism of growth. Unless you are correct in the assumption of some fundamental mechanism which will continue into the future, the trend will fail to accurately predict.

So really, without thinking about what the mechanisms of growth really are, it's just a blind guess.

Is that the same guy who said back in May that he had some insider information about Amazon accepting btcs? why do you trust in new users without proves?

That depends entirely on what your stance is.

If you are in it to make profit in USD (like 99% of this market is doing atm), day trading to get USD gains is perfectly fine. And I say, in a market where there's currently (and practically always) the looming danger that the value of BTC goes through half, securing FIAT profits is not that bad an idea.

If you are a utopian true believer in BTC, believing it will go to 1 million USD per coin no matter what, yeah obviously don't sell then.

Too stable nowdays, almost feels like new 130$

There really isn't enough merchants accepting Bitcoin yet, I know its still very early days in the grand scheme of things but you would of thought we would be hearing many more big companies getting on board given all the media attention recently.

Also a big sell-off just before we hit $1000 again is guaranteed in my opinion, especially if its a slow gradual build up. If there is a lot of pace behind it then I'm sure those looking to sell would hold off and see where it goes.

One person can move the market much more than 10%

With so many expecting it, it may never happen.

Everybody has power to his own coins, exactly as it should be.

Easy money at this point?

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1402

the US guys that want out go to Bitstamp, there's no other choice apart from OTC.

I thought there were limits at coinbase - can you sell 1,000 coins on Coinbase?

I can't tell if you are trolling, really.

And we reached $1000. My countdown is over with 2 days to spare.

Like clockwork I'm telling you.

Surprised ? Who ?

When it was crashing from 900 and we reached 550 USD I said : It will fall below 500 but 400 will hold. If 400 holds then we will hit 1000 USD within the next 10 days. And here we are 7 days later... All correct.

Expect more of the same, going up strong with some corrections/ crashes on the way. For exemple we maybe hit 1600 before crashing back to 1200, then resume rise.

I believe it can again double by the end of the year to 2000 USD. A more conservative estimation is 1500 USD by the end of the year.
In 2014 I believe we'll witness the bull through the 4 digits with the 5 digits in sight. When we reach 5 digits is anyone's guess but I personally see it happen within 12 months.

do you really have to verify to get your coins off gox now?

You can always get your wife to legally change her name to the alias she used. Just have to publish her new name in a news paper.

Hmm strange, I never lost a dime with my strategy Buy on the way down and sell on the way up. Try to spread some FUD and get cheap coins.

I knew it was FUD right away, because in China, you don't get arrested. You disappear.

also agreeing that it either stays here or goes down. Will not go back up above 795$ for now.

I'd like to hear some theories why btc-e is higher than stamp? I can't make sense of it, at some point stamp was even higher than gox. People would sell BTC there to invest in shitcoins. Now... is there all of the sudden more trust in btc-e? Are their transfers easier then stamp? What gives

My sincere apologies if I ever gave the impression that I had any sympathy or respect whatsoever for the libertarian ideology.  If you care, I could try to remove any lingering doubts you may have about my opinions on the matter.

By the way, I am still trying to figure out what exactly is the "freedom" that the bitcoin "libertarians" are so obsessed about.

It seems that most of them are in the US or "US-like" countries, so it cannot be freedom of speech, religion, travel, residence, association, study, dress, drink, sex, marriage, work, property, trade, investment, enterprise, and many other basic freedoms that the citizens of those countries enjoy to a higher degree than most other people in the world (and that bitcoin cannot do anything about anyway).

So, what exactly are those "freedoms" that the "libertarians" miss, and hope to get through bitcoin?

For sure dinosaurs were discussing for quite a while what that burning thing was and how it will affect them.

So any ideas what this "Big thing" and "#ToTheMoon"  tweet by Bitpay is all about?

https://twitter.com/BitPay/status/465206481474686976

Interesting news today from Ebay's CEO.  From a shareholders meeting Q&A session:  "Carl Davis, Jr of the Silicon Valley Black Chamber of Commerce asked Donahoe what he thought of Bitcoin in regards to global trade. The CEO called it a new, exciting and emerging technology. "We think Bitcoin will play a very important role in the future. Exactly how that plays out, and how we can best take advantage of it and enable it with PayPal, that's something we're actively considering. It's on our radar screen."

Here is the article: http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y14/m05/i14/s01

So, should I take out my bitcoins of bitstamp?

waaaaaa  






-> http://www.coindesk.com/37coins-plans-worldwide-bitcoin-access-sms-based-wallet/

Read around there has been a few stories of these new requirements going around. Thats the main issue, there is no advertised threshold that you bump up against these problems. The guy was trying to draw max $4000, thats pocket change! The other explanation is its worked out on trade volume but how fucking retarded. I could trade the same 10 coins 1000 times or do one 10k trade, which one should raise the most flags?

I'm not sure I'd call +$100 in less than a week "a small price rise"...

Learn to sell and take profit during an uptrend, the train isn't going to the moon so soon, there will be a deep correction soon.

Cant go up forever!

Trains don't go to the moon.  No tracks, weird gravity, other stuff.  I'm super serious.

Since this IS a fact according to you can i assume you took a huge loan, sold your house, your car, really anything you could to put this money into Bitcoin. Considering this is a fact you'd be crazy not to. Right?

Or did you mean to say it's a possibility?

The moment you think you know what Bitcoin does is the moment Bitcoin does something completely different. I can assure you what you say will happen will not happen. What will happen I do not know either, but I am prepared for everything.

If that's the company I'll be in then let me just say this: Bitcoin price won't go below $560 on Stamp ever again.

mBTC is logical as does every SI unit (from KBTC all the way to uBTC). Bits is ridiculous.

I'm not saying you're wrong about $666 after the weekend, or even breaking $700 fairly soon. But I keep wondering how people can start seriously getting excited about the next ATH when volume still looks like this:





At some point between now and a new ATH we will need to see at least the volume of the peak days. Right now, we're at about a third to a fifth of that peak volume.

To be clear: that's not my way of saying that this rally is doomed. just that it seems way premature to even mention a new ATH before we're seeing similar volume spikes again as we did before, with upwards of 100k coins per day USD volume (and, yes, I'm okay with summing over stamp, finex and btc-e to have that count towards 100k)

Accounts for sale?  Wow. I would have never dreamed.  Maybe all my hours on here can be worth something yet.    

I agree that zero fees seems too good to be true.  One thing I noticed in their demo youtube is that when making a deposit it lists both a circle fee and a bank fee, but they are both set to FREE.  This might indicate that the coding to handle fees is already there, so they can easily add the fees in the future.

I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one  with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly  (UTC time)    (closest to ATH.....)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This 

UPDATE listmaking                 notice a * is when the person put good enough explanation for other .25 BTC  (person with no * only play ATH or have to put little better )

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03/01/2018 bathy
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chosen date of     petahashminer where allready taken so can give one UNTILL     MAXIMUM 23.59 UTC 19-09-2017    so 20 september 2017