This forum has one of the most lenient spam/troll/idiot tolerance levels I've ever seen.

Mah87, for example, appears to have around 400 posts of nothing more than "BTC crashing buy Ripple!!!"

Welcome to the idiocracy...
I think I'm going to go ahead and claim that I am forking my reality from everyone else's. In my reality,  to ease communication (which coincidentally is the purpose of words), "literally" and "virtually" will keep its proper definition and not mean "one thing plus its opposite."

Yeah but like all businesses that take loses you move on. Im not saying that the theft was legit etc just thats what a business does. I don't get the relevance that has to your proclamation that SR bust had a lasting negative effect on price.

I don't disagree with you about the image but that doesn't directly relate to price. Drugs in general have a pretty bad image but they're darn expensive

You say that it a negative feature for most else but why don't they see that as a negative feature of fiat? Or are we being hypocritical?

The answer to your points every time though in regards to Bitcoin and drugs/crime is $$$$. Plain and simple. Plus not only because most crimes involving money use the $, £ etc but also what big time criminal, drug dealer or arms dealer would want to hold and transact in BTC for large amounts!!!!

Major criminals don't want to hold BTC for the same reason you claim no one should be investing in, volatility, pyramid scheme, can't gurantee value etc etc. Explain this to me as well then. Im fat Tony and I've just done a big arms deal for BTC Ive got people to pay who don't want BTC and I need to buy my wife some nice things. How do I go about liquidating say $5mm worth of Bitcoin or around 10,000 BTC ?

Not only would it be difficult to use an exchange due to KYC, AML, bank transfers but look at the volumes recently trying to liquidate that many coins is not easy in fact almost impossible if you agree a $ to BTC rate when you make the deal. You would end up loosing way more than the agreed deal due to not being able to liquidate that many coins at spot price. Do you see the issue here in an argument that many millions of dollars of criminal activity is done in BTC. Im talking actual criminals here not just someone selling a bit of weed.

Soo thirsty..

IIRC, it was confirmed (by Snowden?) that the NSA had weakened a random number generator used by some OS (Windows?) to  generate keys in some popular crypto protocol (https?).  The numbers were drawn from a smaller domain than clients expected,  making the keys easier to find by brute force. 

I first started at $1200 on local bitcoin's in November 2013.  My first purchase was 1.24BTC for about $1500... something like that.  How about you?  What's your average BTC costs and your duration for being in the BTC game? 

Is that your total holdings?  10BTC?

who gives a f*ck about a dutch bank?

July 2016

Still stand by that call?  I think there is a one hundred and eleventeen percent chance that you are wrong.  I will bet my last satoshi on it.

To be fair, can't do that with Bitcoin either -- Elwar's still getting his bank cards rejected by various ATMs.

@AlexGR: your 16nm story looks like utter crap

Wrong. ARPA created the TCP protocol and DNS to a certain extend. The rest (what people use now as Internet or WWW) - HTML, web browsers, web servers all that stuff was created in CERN Switzerland. Educate yourself!

http://timeline.web.cern.ch/timelines/The-birth-of-the-World-Wide-Web

hodor

Quantum computers recovering (or stealing) lost coins that are kept in old wallets does not rise to any kind of level of doom for the whole internet. 

If old coins are not moved, and kept in old wallets, those wallets become vulnerable to quantum computers, but newer wallets can take security measures in order that they are not vulnerable to the same quantum computer attacks.

There could be some kind of measures to protect the old non moving coins from such attacks, yet I think that if in a worser case scenario they are recovered (or stolen) by someone who has such quantum computing capabilities, there is no real end to bitcoin because at such point soon thereafter, those coins would be put into circulation and potentially just dilute the bitcoin market for a short period of time, and price will adjust to such dilution. 

"crypto can be trusted" in the sense that "it's all mathmatics!" And you can't argue that 2+2=4!

Unlike the death spiral financing toilet bowl stock market...

Do you think I care about the mainstream talking heads that spoon feed us whatever the highest bidder tells them...?

"Dregs of society"...? This is the future of currency...mythical concept? Wake up dude