The Negative Nancies are starting to appear:

They don't, they always get bought at market prices.  That's why you have (a safety) margin as a buffer.
Depending on the rules of your platform, you might have some funds left after getting margin called.

We ruined a bunch of young people that will never come back.
We hate young people.

You are predicting that this current crash is NOT over?

What are the chances that there is another uprun in altcoins and BTC before the BIG CRASH comes?  Do you know?  Can you reasonably presume that this time around is the BIG ONE?

I will concede that a lot of peeps already got reckt, but there are a lot of peeps also who are ready, willing and able to ride out the downwave, assuming that there is going to be another upwave at some point.

Personally, I have my doubts that this current correction is going to be a several year long correction that really weeds out the vast majority of 14 year old crypto speculators.

myself, it looks a lot like 2014 to say Jan of 2016 a lot of drama, sideways price movement on BTC and LTC and other altcoins. This may take a bit.

My real issue is not a bottom of 6k, it is a bottom of 1k one month, 6k the next, 8k the next then 3k again...that kinda movement would really mess with my mind....it could be that wild maybe?

the whims of btc and crypto are not for mortal men it seems (only the bots know...ie skynet!)

Very positive.

Weak hands + Darwin = less weak hands

NOCOINER ALERT

Back to the blow for me

https://www.learningslowly.co/behavioural-bitcoin-report/banking-on-a-quick-bitcoin-recovery

Here's a serious bear case. Personally I don't see how we could slide through the 2020 halving without a pump somewhere outside of 6 months of it.

Let's say Bitcoin remains relatively stable for a few years vs the USD and its role as a ‘stablecoin’ becomes the new, incorrect media narrative. Krugman starts to say it’s becoming a better currency because of this. Traditional markets climb higher and an ETF fails to drive retail and institutional demand.

In pretty much all of 2017, like every week, the upward market looked as if it was going to cease and crash any minute. Especially with all the FUD going on.

You'll never know it was bull run until after it's over. In hindsight.

Here's an excerpt from the second link provided by mfort a few posts above.

Big Institutional Investors are Buying Large Amounts of Bitcoin in OTC Market (3 Oct 2018)
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/10/03/big-institutional-investors-are-buying-large-amounts-of-bitcoin-in-otc-market/

The question in the subtitle has been left unanswered in the article, but my reasonable guess is "probably well before the halvening".

When I said "probably well before the halvening", I was thinking along the following lines.

Lately, volume on traditional exchanges has been ridiculously low. I think this might not be tightly connected with shark buyers going OTC; they have been doing things that way for a while already. The issue is small fish losing interest, patience, fiat money, or all of the above. As soon as all these things build back up, exchange prices must inevitably get a push. Any sign of a bull market will likely trigger a wave of small fish FOMO that will be impact prices for all to see, including MSM. Which will likely create some feedback loop and we'll be back to late 2017 scenarios.

So, who calls him? Will you or should I?  

I am not sure why this narrrative - that institutional investors always make the right calls and own the markets while retail investors always get killed- is so prevalent in crypto psyche. Most of bitcoin richlist are retail investors. Meanwhile funds drove the ICO craze and got killed. But whatever excuse you want to make as to why you’re not wealthier, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

Market manipulation does not exist on any large scale. Prove it. If retailers hold they win. Simple as that. If you are trying to day trade the chop, then you’re probably just a bad trader.

This concept of being robbed by manipulation seems to be going a bit too far.  Markets have dynamics, and you gotta prepare for those dynamics if you are either investing or trading...

Are we all reading and paying attention yet?    

That doesn't make it a fair launch.  Satoshi was able to mine one million bitcoins himself.

I'm a crypto supporter but the fact that one guy owns such a large percentage of bitcoins scares off new investors.  This whole thing looks like a giant ponzi scheme from the outside.

Does this mean that if Tether finally goes belly up, BTC goes to ATH instantly?

~snip~

hearing that it's a way for bfx to track down who is fucking with them

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

fake!

Sounds like someone doesn't know their memes.

What the fuck did you just fucking type, you little bitch?

I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at MIT, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids with Anonymous, and I have over 300 confirmed DDoSes.

I am trained in online trolling and I’m the top hacker in the entire world. You are nothing to me but just another virus host. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on the Internet, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with typing that shit over the Internet? Think again, fucker.

I am tracing your IP with my damn bare hands so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your computer. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can hack into your files in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in hacking, but I have access to the entire arsenal of every piece of malware ever created and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the world wide web, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking fingers. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot.

I will shit code all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I don't like to be the one to break this to you, but you're never going to be better. But that's just the nature of things. Some win gold and some come last.

Why do Bitcoin and cryptoassets have no future…

when the NYSE is creating the cryptocurrency trading platform Bakkt in collaboration with Microsoft and Starbucks with physically backed Bitcoin futures contracts.

when Fidelity is offering it to its clients and has been mining it since 2015.

when Steve Wozniak is co-founding a cryptoasset investment firm.

when Katy Perry IG’d herself with cryptocurrency nail polish

Cryptos coming at you like a dark horse
when Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and Mozilla, started Brave Browser with a built-in ad-blocker and Basic Attention Token (BAT) to reward content creators.

when Amazon Web Services partnered with QTUM.

when the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is utilizing Ripple’s interledger protocol to help with payment services for the financially impoverished and unbanked.

when IBM is partnering with Stellar Lumens (XLM) for cross-border payment solutions.

when Jamie Dimon, tells all that it Bitcoin is a “fraud” and that if he catches any employees who own it he would fire them, while in the background JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley bought Bitcoin ETNs on the dip.

when the MLB is launching a crypto-based game on the blockchain using the ERC-721 standard for non-fungible tokens.

when George Soros initially bashed cryptocurrencies, only to later buy a stack of Bitcoin at the $6k low.

when Alibaba and IBM have the most blockchain patents in the world.

when Yale’s endowment invested $400 million in cyptoasset funds.

when the Winklevoss twins took $11 million of their Facebook money and put it into Bitcoin in 2013 when it was $120 each.

Should I go on?

when John McAfee bets his manhood that Bitcoin is going to the moon.

when Jack Dorsey, CEO of Twitter and Square, thinks Bitcoin is the currency of the future.

when Richard Branson thinks Bitcoin will bring an economic revolution.

when Goldman-Sachs backed Circle launched a crypto finance company.

when Square’s Cash App allowed users to buy and sell Bitcoin.

when Coinbase is valued at $8B.

when the founder of YouTube and the founder of Twitch are advising Theta Token (THETA).

when Bitmain is on track for $10 billion in revenue this year after around $4 billion last year.

when Binance made more in profit in Q2 2018 than Deutsche Bank.

when Reddit co-founder (and husband of Serena Williams — dont forget that) Alexis Ohanian is betting on Bitcoin as a hedge to economic crises.

when Blockchains, LLC bought 60,000 acres for their company that will incubate and innovate Ethereum-based blockchain ventures.

when the co-founder of Wikipedia is now working on its decentralized counterpart Everipedia (IQ).

when Akon is launching his own cryptocurrency Akoin to help bring security to the currency system in Africa.

when Ashton Kutcher donated $4 million in XRP to Ellen DeGeneres’ charityby transferring it to her in a matter of seconds.

when Chamath Palihapitiya, co-owner of the Golden State Warriors, invested early in Bitcoin and thinks it’s going to $1 million per coin.

when Plastic Bank is helping those in developing countries earn cryptocurrency while also curing plastic ocean pollution — I know you’ve seen those IBM commercials.

when Robinhood offers the purchase of cryptos commission-free.

when Steve Bannon is betting on Bitcoin and launching his own cryptocurrency.

when Bill Clinton spoke at the Swell Conference in support of Ripple and blockchain technology: "The permutations and possibilities [of blockchain] are staggeringly great.”

when former Trump aide and Goldman Sachs exec Gary Cohn is joining a blockchain startup.

when the NFL purchased a stake in blockchain startup SportsCastr.

when the NBA goes crypto as the Sacramento Kings mine Ethereum, Bitmain sponsors the Houston Rockets, and former commissioner David Stern backs FanChain.

when Rockefeller-owned Venrock is investing in cryptocurrency.

when Overstock.com is going full-on crypto.

when cryptocurrencies can end poverty and provide financial freedom to those in financial need.

Yeah. This has no future.

Accumulate, HODL, and think outside the blox!

The physical part is an understandable perspective.  But, what value does gold really have?  If the endgame is a SHTF scenario lead is far more valuable than gold.  You can't feed gold or silver to your children.  If grain is scarce I'm not trading any of mine for your precious metals.  

If the shit never does hit the fan, and in the current global socioeconomic climate value is subjective, and gold is no more impressive than a paper wallet.  It wouldn't be any more bizarre to trade bird's heads for tulip bulbs if we lived in a society that put value on those items.

A diverse investment portfolio is the most practical approach.

More hats = less volatility (The Past Month, Bitcoin Has Been Less Volatile Than NASDAQ, DOW and S&P 500)

We could be in the accumulation phase of the famous bitcoin cycles. I’m really hoping we start to move significantly higher in early 2019. The next halving comes into play then (it’ll be 18 months away) so hopefully the price will start going in the right direction.

I think I speak for all of us when I say I’m sick of $6xxx

no hatters are inferior and must be cleansed from this forum.