All posts made by shields in Bitcointalk.org's Wall Observer thread



1. Post 4740139 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Noob question, if everyone sees 31st Jan as a downtrend day, why have they not sold already? Are people really waiting until after a drop on that day to sell? and if so is it not possible that the number of people who have already sold and are waiting to buy back would out number them?



2. Post 4740387 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 26, 2014, 12:01:55 AM
Noob question, if everyone sees 31st Jan as a downtrend day, why have they not sold already?

Perhaps there are many Chinese traders who do not believe that jan/31 would be the end, or that it would affect them.

There are however many people who bought bitcoins at or above 5000 CNY / 900 USD, who presumably will risk waiting a few more days for the price to go up rather than sell now at a substantial loss.


So basically anyone expecting a price drop on the 31st is wagering that the number people gambling on a price rise this week and oblivious Chinese traders who will be caught by surprise by a change to their exchanges outnumber those who already anticapated this and sold or will not sell into a drop (i.e anyone on this forum, or with half a brain).



3. Post 4740519 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_11.59h):

Quote from: BitcoinAshley on January 26, 2014, 12:18:55 AM
Whatever happens Jan.31, it's already priced in by the whales.  Cool

which would mean they sold, which would mean we most likely get buying pressure after the event.



4. Post 5685906 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

Quote from: chriswilmer on March 13, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Atlas Ceo on fox business
he said 1000s of signups yesterday

this new exchange coming up is a mega bullish news, hopefully few more spring up here in the states

Wow... it's not often you see a media discussion that's dominated by Bitcoin bulls teaming up on one skeptic! Smiley

Was he drunk? He was babbling, he said "early adapters"  instead of "early adopters" about 4 times and said nonsense like "when you're storing Bitcoin you can put a value there and say it's representing gold or other things like that". Wow, that's the best rebuttal he had to the original point, which was that Bitcoin is not backed by a government or gold. Honestly he didn't sound confident talking about Bitcoin at all.



5. Post 5685981 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.26h):

Quote from: hdbuck on March 14, 2014, 12:44:53 AM
anyone heard of this??

-> http://getpopcornti.me/

freaking awsome Cheesy

No, but I've heard of being on topic, have you heard of that?



6. Post 5837365 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

This feels like capitulation.



7. Post 5837588 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.28h):

Quote from: Dalmar on March 22, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
This feels like capitulation.

You can sense the despair on r/Bitcoin. the permabulls are starting to question themselves lol

everywhere, on r/bitcoin r/bitcoinmarkets and on the speculation forum here



8. Post 6044018 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.32h):

Quote from: Guinpen on April 03, 2014, 12:17:04 AM
Please forgive my infinite ignorance, but what does ATH mean?

Is this the most beautiful capitulation signal ever?



9. Post 6630205 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.43h):

The bottom should be the miners that can't do basic maths, or tell a speculation profit from a mining profit.



10. Post 6838043 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.45h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on May 20, 2014, 04:49:57 PM
Hard to tell who is leading this rally.  OKCoin seems to be ahead of Huobi in the last spurt.

Could it be insider trading?  Each spurt upwards is when a new group of traders gets that insider info?


Spacesuit deliveries arrive to different traders at different times due to variance in efficiency of postage systems in different geographies... it's complicated you wouldn't understand.



11. Post 6932036 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.46h):

Quote from: shmadz on May 25, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
They've dug some wells in far off lands and provided some surreal sporting moments. I think their market cap is well deserved. And it all ultimately feeds back to BTC. I'll guess that most are using alts to increase their BTC holdings.

sure, that's cool.

as long as you're aware that the supply will continue to increase, like, forever?

just try to imagine infinity, it's actually harder than it seems.

*edit* - assuming we're still talking about doge, that is.

You should keep in mind that the supply of both BTC and DOGE will continue forever within your lifetime.



12. Post 7080427 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.49h):

Wow thanks Adam if this is still going, I'll take a cold one:

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13. Post 7342092 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

Quote from: TERA on June 16, 2014, 12:21:20 PM

What is a 'weak hand'? Why is this type of penny stock terminology used in bitcoin? Does this imply that bitcoin is some type of investment scheme to hold rather than a currency to use?
It's a poker term long before "penny stocks." It means you lack confidence in you ability to play.
So it's a profit making game and not the future of money?
Is money not about profit?
Bitcoin is supposed to be about creating a decentralized network to change the way the world does finance and payments - not about getting all the bitcoin participants to be rich off of the successive waves of bitcoin participants because the unit value rose and having a contest about who made the most profits.

In reality is about both though, as well as many other things. What Bitcoin was supposed to be does not dictate what Bitcoin is used for, perceived as or will become. Bitcoin is many different things to many people.



14. Post 7385826 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.53h):

Quote from: beetcoin on June 18, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
is there anywhere in the rules where 1 person/group cannot win more than 1 bid?

I believe it confirms the opposite - that highest bidder can take all blocks if they want all of them.



15. Post 7562896 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Meanwhile stamp broke 600, up to 603.



16. Post 7586599 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Quote from: ShroomsKit on June 29, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
As the price of these coins are the most important thing this year (considering it's the only thing people talked about the last 10 days) the price will go down or up by huge amounts when we know the outcome, right?

Right?

What do you think the chances we even find out the outcome are?



17. Post 7586640 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_12.56h):

Quote from: Blitz­ on June 29, 2014, 08:09:26 PM
What do you think the chances we even find out the outcome are?
In my view, chances are low that we will find out for all 10 blocks in a relevant timeframe (a week or two). It'll probably be just a stupid rumor/wishing war on both fronts. For something that is a drop in the bucket: a week worth of mining supply.

We should only believe anyone signing a message with the private key of the wallet address that the coins move to. Pretty easy to weed out fake claims.



18. Post 9119621 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.21h):

Oh look an 'off the top of my head' suggestion of a flaw in Bitcoin's robustness turns out to be something known and addressed years ago (as usual).



19. Post 9531936 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_13.31h):

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on November 13, 2014, 01:40:41 PM
one day, when you're ready, you will see the (technical) light, and identify the two main drivers of markets (outside fundamentals): momentum, and mean reversion Cheesy

Seriously, here is one of the reasons why I can't take most TA seriously:

An n-day moving average (MAn) is the average of n consecutive prices.  Charting the moving average instead of the price reduces the random day-to-day noise while preserving the longer-term variations.

An exponential moving average (EMA) is  similar, but gives more weight to the recent behavior -- and is easier to compute if you are using pencil and paper or a slide rule. 8-)

The difference between two MAs with different periods -- say, 7 and 21 days -- is basically a smoothed version of the second derivative of the price.  If MA7 is higher than MA21, the trend of the price is bearish, curving downwards: it is braking while going up, then accelerating down.  Conversely, if  MA7 is lower than MA21, it means that the trend is bullish, curving upwards: braking while going down, then accelerating up.   When the two graphs cross, then, the trend is changing from one mood to the other.

Good so far. However, the average of the last 21 prices tells what the price was 10 days ago, not today.   But analysts always plot the MA21 value at the final date of the 21-day interval, not at the central date.  So, the traditional MA21 plot is displaced 10 days to the right relative to its logically correct position (and you can see that clearly when it is plotted over the daily price chart).  Similarly, the  MA7  chart is shifted 3 days to the right.  Therefore, the two plots cross at the wrong dates; if they were drawn at the correct dates, crossings might appear or disappear.

TA folks even understand this problem, but they have been plotting their MAs and EMAs that way since the lower Paleolithic, and cannot be convinced to change their habits.  There may also be a psychological factor: plotting the MAn values at the correct dates makes it obvious that the analysis is based on information that is 10 days old; whereas plotting it the traditional way gives the impression that the analysis is hot from the ticker's mouth.

There is also the problem that the crossings depend on the arbitrary choice of the MA periods.   It is like computing the ROI of bitcoin investment: one gets completely different results depending on the time scale considered.

Finally,  this MA-crossing analysis depends on the hypothesis that there is an underlying price trend that can be revealed by smoothing the price.  That may be true in ordinary stocks, where the price is partly determined by fundamentals that change slowly with time (such as the overall economy and product sales).  It is rather questionable with bitcoin, since its "fudamentals" are isolated unpredictable events (like PBoC decrees and rumors).  We see that in the charts, where rallies and crashes often start suddenly, out of nowhere.

It doesn't matter what TA events are or how the lines that indicate them are formed so much as it matter how many traders react to those events. I could have two random lines on the chart, but if 90% of traders are going to trade their intersections, then it's still a valid indicator, a self fulfilling prophesy. TA doesn't have to predict the future, if it causes the future.



20. Post 11270625 (copy this link) (by shields) (scraped on 2020-04-04_Sat_14.13h):

Bitcoin trying to pull past 240:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBb0k1sx1s4