Wow Ibian...have some more rope man...
There is never enough rope.
Would you like to verbalize your particular objections?
Not directed toward your comment Ibian...
But like I said, this is exactly why honest, thoughtful, and peaceful debate never occurs in our society anymore. Because people already have their minds made up, their positions solidified. They only use discourse to verbally assault, demean, condescend, and try to shut down the other person.
So I wouldn't even bother discussing anything off topic here.