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March 09, 2019, 10:23:45 AM

20 years of price changes in the United States...

Notice how government subsidized industries are the most expensive? 😮


College tuition in Belgium

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Tuition fees at public universities and colleges in the French Community of Belgium are set by the regional government. For the academic year 2015/2016, tuition fees ranged from 374 to 836.96 EUR per year for EU students depending on their income and whether they are eligible for a grant/scholarship.

There are other reasons.  Don’t blame it on government subsidies
I'm in Europe and University has gone to shit here. The Bachelor/Master system is a complete downgrade and utter disgrace from what we had before in a country undisclosed. University is now school round two instead of being an institution that fosters research and critical thinking (in non-research students - which make up the majority of the student body). I was appalled at how cookie cutter Mathematics and Physics programs are and surprised at the resulting quality of graduates (before I realized the problem).

Also, thanks to university "being" (appearing) free, people who can't normally afford it are taking up bullshit recreational courses that don't produce any value in the Economy. I don't have anything against those and am interested in some of the topics myself. But when people get fooled into believing that they can study anything and get a job there's a problem. And when it's "free" they are ridden of any incentive to think about the implications of their actions.

I totally agree with you, especially regarding the The Bachelor/Master system.
But I also think that the government more or less pushing everybody in to university studies is to blame, it's become more like high school than university, with some exceptions.,When I studied in the late 80s early 90s it was still a bit special to study at a university, today it seems more or less mandatory.

The last point is also quite interesting. It really does seem as if a degree was mandatory.

But in reality, any self-driven and somewhat disciplined person would be able to learn much more by just not going to university and focusing on their profession of choice. University takes up too much time on mundane repetitive nonsense that doesn't teach you anything of value and takes time away from building a portfolio of work, while simultaneously driving most students into just blatantly copying assignments without learning anything.


When I was teaching I had to give classes and correct assignments, and 70% of them were identical (including spelling and grammatical errors).

As a job it was nice, because I'd have one pile of assignments where I marked the first one and then only copied off the final points, without any notes. That resulted in an hourly wage of over 60 Euros.

But when thinking about the implications for society that's just sad.


Which doesn't mean that University (even in it's current state) has no place at all, as anyone who needs someone or something to kick their asses to be productive can still benefit from them. But in most cases they just exacerbate the underlying problem that starts in elementary school. Namely turning curious and motivated kids into retarded unmotivated copy/paste drones.

Seems like being a teacher at American universities isn't very lucrative (this guy is also my favorite you tuber). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7lGCPX_8nc